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From: Andrew Walrond <andrew@walrond.org>
To: "Shureih, Tariq" <tariq.shureih@intel.com>
Cc: "'Ranjeet Shetye'" <ranjeet.shetye@zultys.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently"
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 23:06:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3E161776.3060404@walrond.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8A9A5F4E6576D511B98F00508B68C20A1508E435@orsmsx106.jf.intel.com

I knew we should have stayed ;)

[I'm joking - honest!!!]

Andrew [ British ;) ]

Shureih, Tariq wrote:
> The greatest enemy to knowledge is not ignorance; it's the illusion of
> knowledge.
> 
> Shame on you!
> 
> --
> Tariq Shureih
> Opinions are my own and don't represent my employer
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ranjeet Shetye [mailto:ranjeet.shetye@zultys.com] 
> Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: RE: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently"
> 
> 
> Hi RMS,
> 
> Saw you here and thought I'd remind you. I got under your skin quite a
> few years back cos I wrote this perl-based cscope which I released for
> free - with a modified BSD licence stating that no one in pakistan or no
> person of pakistani nationality could use it and that this licence could
> not be modified to allow pakis to use it. You might ask why I did that ?
> Well, I am an Indian and I thought I'd just needle some pakis cos they
> are such nincompoops. Anyways, 9/11 proved me right that pakis (+
> saudis) suck ass big time.
> 
> Getting back to open-licence software, if you hadn't been such a
> nitpicking ideologue, the free s/w world would have had a cscope at
> least 2 years earlier than it did. I gave you my version of a "free"
> licence, and you didn't like it one bit! That was the OTHER reason I did
> it. To prove a point to you, that EVEN in a Free software world, there
> might be some other price to be paid.
> 
> A full-freedom software world might turn out to be a grey tasteless
> odourless flavourless communist world. Even free s/w needs competition
> to keep it on its toes, and money is the best damned motivation for
> normal people! While everyone, including me, appreciates what you've
> achieved in the past, your intransigence over your untenable extreme
> views on software freedom is the primary reason why you are losing
> ground everyday with your own supporters. Think about it.
> 
> Ranjeet Shetye
> 
> 
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org 
>>[mailto:linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of 
>>Christoph Hellwig
>>Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 1:28 PM
>>To: Richard Stallman
>>Cc: efault@gmx.de; Hell.Surfers@cwctv.net; 
>>linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
>>Subject: Re: Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently"
>>
>>
>>On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 03:31:07PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
>>
>>>If you call the system "Linux", you are misinforming other people: 
>>>teaching them a false picture of the system's history.  
>>
>>Some of them 
>>
>>>may become so attached to the false picture that it distorts their 
>>>thinking.  If you call it "GNU/Linux", this won't happen.
>>
>>The term Linux for the whole system might be inaccurate, but 
>>it's what is used and as long as the owner of the name Linux 
>>(Linus) doesn't complain that's fine.  Calling it GNU/Linux 
>>is 1984-style changing of history, though.
>>
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-03 22:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-01-03 22:24 Nvidia and its choice to read the GPL "differently" Shureih, Tariq
2003-01-03 23:06 ` Andrew Walrond [this message]
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2003-01-15 20:08 Thomas Hood
2003-01-15 20:25 ` Mark Hounschell
     [not found] <20030112070914.AAA21737%shell.webmaster.com@whenever>
2003-01-12 14:40 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12  7:13 David Schwartz
2003-01-12  6:16 Mark Mielke
2003-01-12  7:09 ` David Schwartz
2003-01-10 15:29 Larry Sendlosky
2003-01-11  1:58 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  2:07   ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-11  2:13     ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  2:17       ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-11  2:38         ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  2:41           ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-11  2:46             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11 21:44           ` Kurt Garloff
2003-01-11 21:53             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11 22:16               ` Chief Gadgeteer
2003-01-11 22:26               ` Kurt Garloff
2003-01-11 23:23                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12  3:33                   ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-12  3:43                     ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12  4:19                     ` David Schwartz
2003-01-13 13:51                       ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-12  4:00                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-12  4:04                     ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12  7:47                     ` Chuck Wolber
2003-01-11 22:36               ` Vojtech Pavlik
2003-01-11 22:57                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-12 11:13                   ` Andrew McGregor
2003-01-11  3:26     ` Alan Cox
2003-01-11  2:54       ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-11  2:58         ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  3:11           ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2003-01-11  3:14             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  3:16           ` John Adams
2003-01-11  3:35             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  3:48               ` Hans Sgier
2003-01-11  3:55                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  4:41               ` J Sloan
2003-01-11  4:44                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  5:09                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-11 15:57                   ` Tom Sightler
2003-01-11  3:27           ` Brian Tinsley
     [not found]             ` <1042256385.1259.106.camel@RobsPC.RobertWilkens.com>
2003-01-11  4:16               ` Brian Tinsley
2003-01-11  3:52           ` yodaiken
2003-01-11  4:05             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  5:45               ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-01-11  6:01           ` Tomas Szepe
2003-01-11 15:03             ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11 19:41               ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-11 21:18                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  6:32         ` Ryan Anderson
2003-01-11  2:55       ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  3:20   ` Tom Sightler
2003-01-11 19:48     ` Mark Mielke
     [not found] <fa.gm4r3cv.1r4avpq@ifi.uio.no>
     [not found] ` <fa.hq6mucv.l4qg1c@ifi.uio.no>
2003-01-08 15:02   ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2003-01-08 20:53     ` Jon Portnoy
2003-01-09 23:13     ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:45       ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-05  8:02 Albert D. Cahalan
2003-01-06 17:13 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-06 17:37   ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-06 19:40     ` Steven Barnhart
2003-01-06 23:33     ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-07 15:47       ` Disconnect
2003-01-07 13:40     ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-07 14:26       ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-08  8:00         ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-08 13:51           ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-09 23:14             ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:24               ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-11  0:21                 ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-10  5:33               ` Oliver Xymoron
2003-01-10  6:07                 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-10  6:31                   ` Miles Bader
2003-01-10 14:17                 ` Charles Cazabon
2003-01-11  1:36                 ` Rob Wilkens
2003-01-11  4:06                   ` John Jasen
2003-01-11  7:13                     ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-08 21:29           ` Matthias Andree
2003-01-09  2:26           ` Vlad@Vlad.geekizoid.com
2003-01-09  8:57             ` John Alvord
2003-01-10  9:52               ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-10 16:05                 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-01-10 18:41                 ` Rogier Wolff
2003-01-12 11:55                   ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-12 12:27                     ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-13 14:32                     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13 17:09                       ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-13 17:22                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-13 17:37                           ` Jesse Pollard
2003-01-13 18:48                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-14 18:55                               ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-14 19:06                                 ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-14 21:32                                   ` Andre Hedrick
2003-01-15 12:44                                   ` Gaël Le Mignot
2003-01-14 22:20                                 ` Tomasz Kłoczko
2003-01-13 17:51                           ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-14 18:54                             ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:14             ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09 23:39               ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-07 16:18       ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-08  2:29         ` Miles Bader
2003-01-09  7:28         ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-09  6:44           ` Dimitrie O. Paun
2003-01-03 21:52 Steven Barnhart
2003-01-04  0:18 ` Florian Weimer
2003-01-03 21:50 NVidia " Steven Barnhart
2003-01-03 20:31 Nvidia " Richard Stallman
2003-01-03 21:20 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-03 21:28 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-01-03 21:32   ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-03 22:09   ` Ranjeet Shetye
2003-01-04  0:02     ` Lionel Bouton
2003-01-03 22:59   ` Måns Rullgård
2003-01-04 23:45   ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-04  4:37 ` Mark Rutherford
2003-01-01  2:41 Hell.Surfers
2003-01-01  9:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-02 18:38   ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-02 18:49     ` Larry McVoy
2003-01-02 19:02     ` Richard B. Johnson
2003-01-02 19:31     ` Mark Mielke
2003-01-03  7:50       ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-03  7:56         ` Mark Hahn
2003-01-03 20:30           ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-03 11:17         ` venom
2003-01-03 11:49           ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-03 13:11             ` venom
2003-01-03 14:58             ` Bill Davidsen
2003-01-03 15:25               ` Andrew Walrond
2003-01-03 15:48                 ` Hugo Mills
2003-01-03 20:30           ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-03  1:01     ` Mike Galbraith
2003-01-03  7:50       ` Richard Stallman
2003-01-04 22:14     ` Matthias Andree

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