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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Usama Arif <usama.arif@bytedance.com>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Kim Phillips <kim.phillips@amd.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, rja@hpe.com
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	hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	paulmck@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, rcu@vger.kernel.org, mimoja@mimoja.de,
	hewenliang4@huawei.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com,
	seanjc@google.com, pmenzel@molgen.mpg.de,
	fam.zheng@bytedance.com, punit.agrawal@bytedance.com,
	simon.evans@bytedance.com, liangma@liangbit.com,
	Mario Limonciello <Mario.Limonciello@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [External] Re: [PATCH v6 07/11] x86/smpboot: Disable parallel boot for AMD CPUs
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2023 08:05:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <411cbdb2c8255e48f3e65c59a98bc02410f5dfc7.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <434b4b74-54ab-68a3-4a81-9cc02ea75e39@bytedance.com>

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On Sun, 2023-02-05 at 22:13 +0000, Usama Arif wrote:
> 
> 
> On 04/02/2023 22:31, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 4 February 2023 18:18:55 GMT, Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > However...
> > > > 
> > > > Even though we *can* support non-X2APIC processors, we *might* want to
> > > > play it safe and not go back that far; only enabling parallel bringup
> > > > on machines with X2APIC which roughly correlates with "lots of CPUs"
> > > > since that's where the benefit is.
> > > 
> > > I think that this is the right approach, at least on the initial patch series.
> > > KISS principle; do all the easy-but-important cases first, get it stable and working
> > > and in later series/kernels the range can be expanded.... if it matters.
> > 
> > Agreed. I'll split it to do it only with X2APIC for the initial series, and then hold the CPUID 0x1 part back for the next phase.
> 
> This was an interesting find! I tested the latest branch 
> parallel-6.2-rc6 and it works well. The numbers from Russ makes the 
> patch series look so much better! :)
> 
> If we do it with x2apic only and not support non-x2apic CPUID 0x1 case, 
> maybe we apply the following diff to part 1?

Using x2apic_mode would also disable parallel boot when the CPU *does*
have X2APIC support but the kernel just isn't using it at the moment. I
think boot_cpu_has(X86_FEATURE_X2APIC) is the better criterion?

I was thinking I'd tweak the 'no_parallel_bringup' command line
argument into something that also allows us to *enable* it without
X2APIC being supported.

But I've also been pondering the fact that this is all only for 64-bit
anyway. It's not like we're doing it for the zoo of ancient i586 and
even i486 machines where the APICs were hooked up with blue wire and
duct tape.

Maybe "64-bit only" is good enough, with a command line opt-out. And
maybe a printk pointing out the existence of that command line option
before the bringup, just in case? 

> diff --git a/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c b/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c
> index f53a060a899b..f6b89cf40076 100644
> --- a/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c
> +++ b/arch/x86/kernel/smpboot.c
> @@ -1564,7 +1564,7 @@ void __init native_smp_prepare_cpus(unsigned int 
> max_cpus)
>           * sufficient). Otherwise it's too hard. And not for SEV-ES
>           * guests because they can't use CPUID that early.
>           */
> -       if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_X86_32) || boot_cpu_data.cpuid_level < 1 ||
> +       if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_X86_32) || !x2apic_mode ||
>              (x2apic_mode && boot_cpu_data.cpuid_level < 0xb) ||
>              cc_platform_has(CC_ATTR_GUEST_STATE_ENCRYPT))
>                  do_parallel_bringup = false;
> 
> 
> 
> For reusing timer calibration, calibrate_delay ends up being used in 
> start_kernel, smp_callin, debug_calc_bogomips and check_cx686_slop. I
> think reusing timer calibration would be ok in the first 2 uses? 
> 

It already explicitly allows the calibration to be reused from another
CPU in the same *core*, but no further. I think we'd need to be sure
about the correctness of extending that further, and which of the mess
of constant/invariant/we-really-mean-it-this-time TSC flags need to be
set for that to be OK.

> but not really sure about the other 2. cx686 seems to be quite old so not sure 
> if anyone will have it to test or will ever run 6.2 kernel on it :).  I 
> guess if unsure, better to leave out initially and try and get part1 merged?

I doubt cx686 advertises constant TSC; the early ones didn't even *have* a TSC.
Does it even support SMP?

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-06  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-02 21:56 [PATCH v6 00/11] Parallel CPU bringup for x86_64 Usama Arif
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] x86/apic/x2apic: Fix parallel handling of cluster_mask Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 10:57     ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 11:27       ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 14:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 19:53           ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 20:58             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 14:22       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] cpu/hotplug: Move idle_thread_get() to <linux/smpboot.h> Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:33   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07  1:24     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] cpu/hotplug: Add dynamic parallel bringup states before CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:43   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] x86/smpboot: Reference count on smpboot_setup_warm_reset_vector() Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <57195f701f6d1d70ec440c9a28cbee4cfb81dc41.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2023-02-07 14:39       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 16:50         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-07 19:48         ` [EXTERNAL][PATCH " David Woodhouse
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] x86/smpboot: Split up native_cpu_up into separate phases and document them Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] x86/smpboot: Support parallel startup of secondary CPUs Usama Arif
2023-02-02 22:30   ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-02 22:50     ` [External] " Usama Arif
2023-02-03  8:14       ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-03 14:41         ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-02-03 18:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-07  0:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] x86/smpboot: Disable parallel boot for AMD CPUs Usama Arif
2023-02-03 19:48   ` Kim Phillips
     [not found]     ` <d5ec64236ba75f0d3f3718fb69b2cb9169d8af0a.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2023-02-03 21:45       ` Kim Phillips
2023-02-03 22:25         ` [EXTERNAL][PATCH " David Woodhouse
2023-02-04  9:07     ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2023-02-04 10:09     ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-04 15:40     ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-04 18:18       ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-02-04 22:31         ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-05 22:13           ` [External] " Usama Arif
2023-02-06  8:05             ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2023-02-06 12:11               ` Usama Arif
2023-02-06 18:07                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-06 17:58       ` Kim Phillips
2023-02-07 16:27         ` Kim Phillips
2023-02-07  0:23       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 10:04         ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 14:44           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07  0:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <cbd9e88e738dc0c479e87121ca82431731905c73.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2023-02-07 14:46       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] x86/smpboot: Send INIT/SIPI/SIPI to secondary CPUs in parallel Usama Arif
2023-02-07  0:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] x86/mtrr: Avoid repeated save of MTRRs on boot-time CPU bringup Usama Arif
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] x86/smpboot: Serialize topology updates for secondary bringup Usama Arif
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] x86/smpboot: reuse timer calibration Usama Arif
2023-02-07  0:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 23:16   ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-02-07 23:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-05 19:17 ` [PATCH v6 00/11] Parallel CPU bringup for x86_64 Russ Anderson
2023-02-06  8:28   ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-06 12:18     ` [External] " Usama Arif

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