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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL][PATCH v6 04/11] x86/smpboot: Reference count on smpboot_setup_warm_reset_vector()
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2023 19:48:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <abb08aaf96cbee2ae16852b10a75bf9e865813da.camel@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sffhv8to.ffs@tglx>

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On Tue, 2023-02-07 at 15:39 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> David!
> 
> On Tue, Feb 07 2023 at 09:49, David Woodhouse wrote:
> 
> Can you please fix your mail client to _NOT_ send multipart/mixed mails?
> Despite the CC list being insanely large, your replies are dropped by
> vger and missing in the archives.
> 

That's not the client; that's the stupid mail system doing it in
transit. Sorry, I'd already filed a ticket about that idiocy last week
when I noticed they'd started adding HTML parts to a previously sane
mail. But obviously they haven't managed to fix it yet.

The correct thing to do in the meantime is use a non-broken mail
account, and I just forgot this morning until half way through the
thread, when you'll note the coffee kicked in and I switched.


> > On Tue, 2023-02-07 at 00:48 +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 02 2023 at 21:56, Usama Arif wrote:
> > > > From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> > > > 
> > > > If we want to do parallel CPU bringup, we're going to need to set this up
> > > > and leave it until all CPUs are done. Might as well use the RTC spinlock
> > > > to protect the refcount, as we need to take it anyway.
> > > 
> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/maintainer-tip.html#changelog
> > > 
> > > Aside of the 'We' this does not explain anything at all.
> > 
> > Er, doesn't it?
> > 
> > We refcount the warm reset vector because when we do parallel bringup,
> > we'll want to set it up once and then put it back to normal (for cold
> > reset) once all the CPUs are up.
> > 
> > I can rework the phrasing; I'm aware that the whole nonsense about
> > pronouns and the imperative mood has grown legs in the last couple of
> > years since I originally wrote it — but is there anything actually
> > missing?
> 
> We can settle the imperative mood debate over a beer at the next
> conference, but stuff which goes through tip is required to follow those
> rules. No exception for you :)
> 
> Vs. the content: This changelog lacks context. Changelogs have to be
> self contained and self explanatory. Assuming that they are
> understandable due to the context of the patch series is just wrong. I
> fundamentally hate it when I have to dig out the context when I stare at
> the changelog of a commit.
> 
> So something like this:
> 
>    The warm reset vector on X86 is setup through the RTC (CMOS) clock
>    for each CPU bringup operation and cleared after the CPU came online.
> 
>    Parallel bringup of multiple CPUs requires that the warm reset vector
>    is valid until all CPUs came online.
> 
>    To prepare for that add refcounting for the reset vector and protect
>    it with the rtc_lock which has to be taken for the setup operation
>    anyway.
> 
> gives the full context and is simply factual, no?

Ack.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-07 19:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-02 21:56 [PATCH v6 00/11] Parallel CPU bringup for x86_64 Usama Arif
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 01/11] x86/apic/x2apic: Fix parallel handling of cluster_mask Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 10:57     ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 11:27       ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 14:24         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 19:53           ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 20:58             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 14:22       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 02/11] cpu/hotplug: Move idle_thread_get() to <linux/smpboot.h> Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:33   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07  1:24     ` Paul E. McKenney
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 03/11] cpu/hotplug: Add dynamic parallel bringup states before CPUHP_BRINGUP_CPU Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:43   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 04/11] x86/smpboot: Reference count on smpboot_setup_warm_reset_vector() Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <57195f701f6d1d70ec440c9a28cbee4cfb81dc41.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2023-02-07 14:39       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 16:50         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-07 19:48         ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 05/11] x86/smpboot: Split up native_cpu_up into separate phases and document them Usama Arif
2023-02-06 23:59   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 06/11] x86/smpboot: Support parallel startup of secondary CPUs Usama Arif
2023-02-02 22:30   ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-02 22:50     ` [External] " Usama Arif
2023-02-03  8:14       ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-03 14:41         ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-02-03 18:17   ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-07  0:07   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 07/11] x86/smpboot: Disable parallel boot for AMD CPUs Usama Arif
2023-02-03 19:48   ` Kim Phillips
     [not found]     ` <d5ec64236ba75f0d3f3718fb69b2cb9169d8af0a.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2023-02-03 21:45       ` Kim Phillips
2023-02-03 22:25         ` [EXTERNAL][PATCH " David Woodhouse
2023-02-04  9:07     ` [PATCH " David Woodhouse
2023-02-04 10:09     ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-04 15:40     ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-04 18:18       ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-02-04 22:31         ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-05 22:13           ` [External] " Usama Arif
2023-02-06  8:05             ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-06 12:11               ` Usama Arif
2023-02-06 18:07                 ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-06 17:58       ` Kim Phillips
2023-02-07 16:27         ` Kim Phillips
2023-02-07  0:23       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 10:04         ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-07 14:44           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07  0:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
     [not found]     ` <cbd9e88e738dc0c479e87121ca82431731905c73.camel@amazon.co.uk>
2023-02-07 14:46       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 08/11] x86/smpboot: Send INIT/SIPI/SIPI to secondary CPUs in parallel Usama Arif
2023-02-07  0:28   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 09/11] x86/mtrr: Avoid repeated save of MTRRs on boot-time CPU bringup Usama Arif
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 10/11] x86/smpboot: Serialize topology updates for secondary bringup Usama Arif
2023-02-02 21:56 ` [PATCH v6 11/11] x86/smpboot: reuse timer calibration Usama Arif
2023-02-07  0:31   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-07 23:16   ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-02-07 23:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-05 19:17 ` [PATCH v6 00/11] Parallel CPU bringup for x86_64 Russ Anderson
2023-02-06  8:28   ` David Woodhouse
2023-02-06 12:18     ` [External] " Usama Arif

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