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From: Jason Yan <yanaijie@huawei.com>
To: Scott Wood <oss@buserror.net>, Daniel Axtens <dja@axtens.net>,
	<mpe@ellerman.id.au>, <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	<diana.craciun@nxp.com>, <christophe.leroy@c-s.fr>,
	<benh@kernel.crashing.org>, <paulus@samba.org>,
	<npiggin@gmail.com>, <keescook@chromium.org>,
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <zhaohongjiang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64
Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2020 11:22:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <473e276e-ed72-b75b-9797-7845ee27db88@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d673649d6f371e82d4a94ba62bfd0d44efeca7b4.camel@buserror.net>



在 2020/3/5 5:21, Scott Wood 写道:
> On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 18:16 +1100, Daniel Axtens wrote:
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>>> This is a try to implement KASLR for Freescale BookE64 which is based on
>>> my earlier implementation for Freescale BookE32:
>>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/linuxppc-dev/list/?series=131718
>>>
>>> The implementation for Freescale BookE64 is similar as BookE32. One
>>> difference is that Freescale BookE64 set up a TLB mapping of 1G during
>>> booting. Another difference is that ppc64 needs the kernel to be
>>> 64K-aligned. So we can randomize the kernel in this 1G mapping and make
>>> it 64K-aligned. This can save some code to creat another TLB map at
>>> early boot. The disadvantage is that we only have about 1G/64K = 16384
>>> slots to put the kernel in.
>>>
>>>      KERNELBASE
>>>
>>>            64K                     |--> kernel <--|
>>>             |                      |              |
>>>          +--+--+--+    +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+    +--+--+
>>>          |  |  |  |....|  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |....|  |  |
>>>          +--+--+--+    +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+    +--+--+
>>>          |                         |                        1G
>>>          |----->   offset    <-----|
>>>
>>>                                kernstart_virt_addr
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if the slot numbers is enough or the design has any
>>> defects. If you have some better ideas, I would be happy to hear that.
>>>
>>> Thank you all.
>>>
>>
>> Are you making any attempt to hide kernel address leaks in this series?
>> I've just been looking at the stackdump code just now, and it directly
>> prints link registers and stack pointers, which is probably enough to
>> determine the kernel base address:
>>
>>                    SPs:               LRs:             %pS pointer
>> [    0.424506] [c0000000de403970] [c000000001fc0458] dump_stack+0xfc/0x154
>> (unreliable)
>> [    0.424593] [c0000000de4039c0] [c000000000267eec] panic+0x258/0x5ac
>> [    0.424659] [c0000000de403a60] [c0000000024d7a00]
>> mount_block_root+0x634/0x7c0
>> [    0.424734] [c0000000de403be0] [c0000000024d8100]
>> prepare_namespace+0x1ec/0x23c
>> [    0.424811] [c0000000de403c60] [c0000000024d7010]
>> kernel_init_freeable+0x804/0x880
>>
>> git grep \\\"REG\\\" arch/powerpc shows a few other uses like this, all
>> in process.c or in xmon.
>>
>> Maybe replacing the REG format string in KASLR mode would be sufficient?
> 
> Whatever we decide to do here, it's not book3e-specific so it should be
> considered separately from these patches.
> 

OK, I will continue to work with this series.

> -Scott
> 
> 
> 
> .
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-05  3:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-06  2:58 [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64 Jason Yan
2020-02-06  2:58 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/kaslr: refactor kaslr_legal_offset() and kaslr_early_init() Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:40   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26  2:11     ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06  2:58 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: introduce reloc_kernel_entry() helper Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:41   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-06  2:58 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: implement KASLR for fsl_booke64 Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:48   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26  2:40     ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26  3:33       ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26  5:04         ` [RFC PATCH] Use IS_ENABLED() instead of #ifdefs Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26  6:26           ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26  5:10         ` [PATCH v3 3/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: implement KASLR for fsl_booke64 Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26  5:08       ` Christophe Leroy
2020-03-04 21:44   ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05  2:32     ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06  2:58 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: do not clear the BSS for the second pass Jason Yan
2020-03-04 21:49   ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05  3:14     ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06  2:58 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/64: clear the original kernel if randomized Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:49   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26  2:44     ` Jason Yan
2020-03-04 21:53   ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05  3:20     ` Jason Yan
2020-02-06  2:58 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] powerpc/fsl_booke/kaslr: rename kaslr-booke32.rst to kaslr-booke.rst and add 64bit part Jason Yan
2020-02-20 13:50   ` Christophe Leroy
2020-02-26  2:46     ` Jason Yan
2020-02-13  3:00 ` [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64 Jason Yan
2020-02-20  3:33   ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26  7:16 ` Daniel Axtens
2020-02-26  8:18   ` Jason Yan
2020-02-26 11:41     ` Daniel Axtens
2020-02-27  1:55       ` Jason Yan
2020-02-28  5:53     ` Scott Wood
2020-02-28  6:47       ` Jason Yan
2020-02-29  4:28         ` Scott Wood
2020-02-29  7:27           ` Jason Yan
2020-02-29 22:54             ` Scott Wood
2020-03-02  2:17               ` Jason Yan
2020-03-02  3:24                 ` Scott Wood
2020-03-02  7:12                   ` Jason Yan
2020-03-02  8:47                     ` Scott Wood
2020-03-02  9:37                       ` Jason Yan
2020-03-04 21:21   ` Scott Wood
2020-03-05  3:22     ` Jason Yan [this message]
2020-03-04 12:47 [PATCH] vfsprintf: only hash addresses in security environment Jason Yan
2020-03-04 18:34 ` Kees Cook
2020-03-04 21:11   ` [PATCH v3 0/6] implement KASLR for powerpc/fsl_booke/64 Scott Wood
2020-03-04 22:36     ` Kees Cook
2020-03-05 18:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2020-03-06 18:33       ` Scott Wood

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