From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Timur Tabi <timur@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Ganesh Mahendran <opensource.ganesh@gmail.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
rrichter@cavium.com, tchalamarla@cavium.com,
Shanker Donthineni <shankerd@codeaurora.org>,
apinski@cavium.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Revert "arm64: Increase the max granular size"
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:03:08 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56EAD53C.80707@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160317153747.GD11623@e104818-lin.cambridge.arm.com>
On 17/03/16 15:37, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 09:49:51AM -0500, Timur Tabi wrote:
[...]
>> Keep in mind that on an ACPI system like ours, the boot loader (UEFI in our
>> case) configures the system extensively. It does a lot of things that the
>> kernel would normally do on a device tree system. For example, pin control
>> is handled completely by UEFI. The kernel does not set the pin muxes or
>> GPIO directions. That means we don't support dynamic pin muxing. Before
>> the kernel is booted, the GPIO pins are fixed.
>
> And that's great. But you are mistaken in thinking that DT requires lots
> of drivers in the kernel and prevents the firmware from doing sane
> stuff. DT rather gained additional features out of necessity since the
> firmware was not always doing a proper job at hardware initialisation.
> A DT-enabled kernel does not impose restrictions on such firmware
> features. With ACPI, the choice is not as wide and forces vendors to
> look into their firmware story from a different angle (until they figure
> the _DSD+PRP0001 out and we end up with DT emulated in ACPI).
Or even worse, perverting the couple of things that were actually OK in
ACPI by inventing a new layer of broken stuff:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.msm/17828
Once we've reached that level, _DSD fells all nice and cuddly.
M.
--
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-03-17 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-16 9:32 [PATCH] Revert "arm64: Increase the max granular size" Ganesh Mahendran
2016-03-16 10:07 ` Will Deacon
2016-03-16 13:06 ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-16 14:03 ` Mark Rutland
2016-03-16 14:35 ` Will Deacon
2016-03-16 14:54 ` Mark Rutland
2016-03-16 14:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-16 15:26 ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-17 14:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-17 14:49 ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-17 15:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-17 16:03 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2016-03-17 18:07 ` Andrew Pinski
2016-03-17 18:34 ` Timur Tabi
2016-03-17 18:37 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-18 21:05 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2016-03-21 1:56 ` Ganesh Mahendran
2016-03-21 17:14 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-21 17:23 ` Will Deacon
2016-03-21 17:33 ` Catalin Marinas
2016-03-21 17:39 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
[not found] ` <CAPub14-sFgx=oCHzJPb9h9b_V0rbn5UAMDNJ-yTkjhz38JPqMQ@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <10fef112-37f1-0a1b-b5af-435acd032f01@codeaurora.org>
2017-04-06 7:22 ` Imran Khan
2017-04-06 15:58 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-07 2:06 ` Ganesh Mahendran
2017-04-07 8:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-12 5:13 ` Imran Khan
2017-04-12 14:00 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2017-04-17 7:35 ` Imran Khan
2017-04-17 10:38 ` Sunil Kovvuri
2017-04-18 14:48 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-18 17:05 ` Sunil Kovvuri
2017-04-19 12:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-04-19 13:11 ` Sunil Kovvuri
2017-04-25 6:42 ` Ding Tianhong
2017-04-18 18:21 ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2017-04-11 4:40 ` Jon Masters
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