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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: riel@surriel.com, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Lazy FPU restoration / moving kernel_fpu_end() to context switch
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 13:42:14 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e415c4d-415b-0ff6-5488-1681e522d2dc@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9qhmSVNBq_GnkYrGU-PPEX9Fk0yiGktsCeEXo+LTB9KPg@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/15/2018 01:33 PM, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:32 PM Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> wrote:
>> quite in the form you imagined.  The idea that we've tossed around is
>> to restore FPU state on return to user mode.  Roughly, we'd introduce
>> a new thread flag TIF_FPU_UNLOADED (name TBD).
>> prepare_exit_to_usermode() would notice this flag, copy the fpstate to
>> fpregs, and clear the flag.  (Or maybe exit_to_usermode_loop() -- No
>> one has quite thought it through, but I think it should be outside the
>> loop.)  We'd update all the FPU accessors to understand the flag.
> Yes! This is exactly what I was thinking. Then those calls to begin()
> and end() could be placed as close to the actual FPU usage as
> possible.

Andy, what was the specific concern about PKRU?  That we might do:

	kernel_fpu_begin(); <- Saves the first time
	something()
	kernel_fpu_end(); <- Does not XRSTOR

	copy_from_user(); <- Sees old PKRU, does the wrong thing

	prepare_exit_to_usermode(); <- Does the XRSTOR
	// only now does PKRU have the right value
	SYSRET/IRET

?

Does that *matter* unless something() modified PKRU?  We could just make
the rule that nobody is supposed to mess with it and that it's not
covered by kernel_fpu_begin/end() semantics.  We could even
theoretically enforce that in a debug environment if we watch its value.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-15 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-15 13:11 Lazy FPU restoration / moving kernel_fpu_end() to context switch Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 16:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15 18:33   ` Brian Gerst
2018-06-15 19:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15 20:30     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-18  9:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-18 15:25         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 18:40   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-15 18:41   ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 18:49     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 18:48   ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 18:53     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 20:27       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 20:48         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-19 11:43       ` David Laight
2018-06-19 13:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15 20:33   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 20:42     ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2018-06-15 20:52       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 20:56       ` Rik van Riel
2018-07-11 16:28     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-11 20:10       ` Rik van Riel

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