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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: 'Andy Lutomirski' <luto@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: Lazy FPU restoration / moving kernel_fpu_end() to context switch
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 15:08:44 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1806191506420.10546@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8fcc0d8f5d8f48ca92e034d0c1a3c157@AcuMS.aculab.com>

On Tue, 19 Jun 2018, David Laight wrote:
> From: Andy Lutomirski
> > Sent: 15 June 2018 19:54
> > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 11:50 AM Dave Hansen
> > <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 06/15/2018 11:31 AM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > > > for (thing) {
> > > >   kernel_fpu_begin();
> > > >   encrypt(thing);
> > > >   kernel_fpu_end();
> > > > }
> > >
> > > Don't forget that the processor has optimizations for this, too.  The
> > > "modified optimization" will notice that between:
> > >
> > >         kernel_fpu_end();   -> XRSTOR
> > > and
> > >         kernel_fpu_start(); -> XSAVE(S|OPT)
> > >
> > > the processor has not modified the states.  It'll skip doing any writes
> > > of the state.  Doing what Andy is describing is still way better than
> > > letting the processor do it, but you should just know up front that this
> > > may not be as much of a win as you would expect.
> > 
> > Even with the modified optimization, kernel_fpu_end() still needs to
> > reload the state that was trashed by the kernel FPU use.  If the
> > kernel is using something like AVX512 state, then kernel_fpu_end()
> > will transfer an enormous amount of data no matter how clever the CPU
> > is.  And I think I once measured XSAVEOPT taking a hundred cycles or
> > so even when RFBM==0, so it's not exactly super fast.
> 
> If the kernel was entered by a system call do you need to save the AVX512
> state at all?
> IIRC the registers are all defined as 'called saved' so there is no expectation
> that they will be saved across the syscall wrapper function call.
> All you need to do is ensure that 'kernel' values aren't passed back to userspace.
> There is a single instruction to zero all the AVX512 registers.

Then we need different treatment for exception entries and consecutive
preemption. Lots of corner cases to cover ...

Thanks,

	tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-19 13:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-15 13:11 Lazy FPU restoration / moving kernel_fpu_end() to context switch Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 16:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-06-15 18:33   ` Brian Gerst
2018-06-15 19:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-15 20:30     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-18  9:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-18 15:25         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 18:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 18:40   ` Rik van Riel
2018-06-15 18:41   ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 18:49     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 18:48   ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 18:53     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 20:27       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 20:48         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-19 11:43       ` David Laight
2018-06-19 13:08         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2018-06-15 20:33   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2018-06-15 20:42     ` Dave Hansen
2018-06-15 20:52       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-06-15 20:56       ` Rik van Riel
2018-07-11 16:28     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2018-07-11 20:10       ` Rik van Riel

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