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From: Daniel Scally <djrscally@gmail.com>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 18/18] ipu3: Add driver for dummy INT3472 ACPI device
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 00:39:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7f20c116-a3fc-9374-aaf2-4cf57a9a07f9@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <X/j2OnQpuJRLw3DP@pendragon.ideasonboard.com>

Hi Laurent

On 09/01/2021 00:18, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> H Andy and Daniel,
>
> On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 02:17:49PM +0200, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:56 AM Daniel Scally wrote:
>>> On 30/11/2020 20:07, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 01:31:29PM +0000, Daniel Scally wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>> It's solely Windows driver design...
>>>> Luckily I found some information and can clarify above table:
>>>>
>>>> 0x00 Reset
>>>> 0x01 Power down
>>>> 0x0b Power enable
>>>> 0x0c Clock enable
>>>> 0x0d LED (active high)
>>>>
>>>> The above text perhaps should go somewhere under Documentation.
>>> Coming back to this; there's a bit of an anomaly with the 0x01 Power
>>> Down pin for at least one platform.  As listed above, the OV2680 on one
>>> of my platforms has 3 GPIOs defined, and the table above gives them as
>>> type Reset, Power down and Clock enable. I'd assumed from this table
>>> that "power down" meant a powerdown GPIO (I.E. the one usually called
>>> PWDNB in Omnivision datasheets and "powerdown" in drivers), but the
>>> datasheet for the OV2680 doesn't list a separate reset and powerdown
>>> pin, but rather a single pin that performs both functions.
> First question, do we have a confirmation that the OV2680 sensor on that
> platform requires GPIO 0x01 to be toggled to work properly ?

Yes; without that toggled not even the i2c interface is available.

> I'd like to
> rule out the option of the GPIO being simply not connected (that would
> be best for us, although my experience so far with this terrible ACPI
> design doesn't of course give me much hope).
Sorry to dash what little hope was left.
> Where did you find the OV2680 datasheet by the way, can you share a link
> to a leaked version ?
Sure. I left the PC already, but I'll do that tomorrow.
>> All of them are GPIOs, the question here is how they are actually
>> connected on PCB level and I have no answer to that. You have to find
>> schematics somewhere.
>>
>>> Am I wrong to treat that as something that ought to be mapped as a
>>> powerdown GPIO to the sensors? Or do you know of any other way to
>>> reconcile that discrepancy?
>> The GPIOs can go directly to the sensors or be a control pin for
>> separate discrete power gates.
> GPIO functions 0x00 and 0x01 are meant to control sensor signals, while
> GPIO function 0x0b is meant to control a power gate. Of course board
> designers may have thought clever to use function 0x01 to control a
> second power gate, this can't be ruled out without the schematics (or
> reverse engineering of the hardware).
>
>> So, we can do one of the following:
>>  a) present PD GPIO as fixed regulator;
>>  b) present PD & Reset GPIOs as regulator;
>>  c) provide them as is to the sensor and sensor driver must do what it
>> considers right.
>>
>> Since we don't have schematics (yet?) and we have plenty of variations
>> of sensors, I would go to c) and update the driver of the affected
>> sensor as needed. Because even if you have separate discrete PD for
>> one sensor on one platform there is no guarantee that it will be the
>> same on another. Providing a "virtual" PD in a sensor that doesn't
>> support it is the best choice I think. Let's hear what Sakari and
>> other experienced camera sensor developers say.
>>
>> My vision is purely based on electrical engineering background,
>> experience with existing (not exactly camera) sensor drivers and
>> generic cases.
> If the OV2680 has indeed no power down pin, that won't work. Adding
> support for a non-existent powerdown pin to the corresponding driver
> won't be accepted. Workarounds and hacks to support IPU3-based devices
> need to be kept out of camera sensor drivers.
>
> If we need to map GPIO function 0x01 to a sensor GPIO on some platform,
> and to a regulator on other platforms, then we will need per-platform
> data in the INT3472 driver. For this particular platform, the reset
> (0x00) GPIO should be passed to the sensor, and the powerdown (0x01)
> GPIO should control a regulator (again assuming that our assumption that
> the GPIO is wired to a power gate is correct).
Let me think of a neat way to do this then.
>
>>> Failing that; the only way I can think to handle this is to register
>>> proxy GPIO pins assigned to the sensors as you suggested previously, and
>>> have them toggle the GPIO's assigned to the INT3472 based on platform
>>> specific mapping data (I.E. we register a pin called "reset", which on
>>> most platforms just toggles the 0x00 pin, but on this specific platform
>>> would drive both 0x00 and 0x01 together. We're already heading that way
>>> for the regulator consumer supplies so it's sort of nothing new, but I'd
>>> still rather not if it can be avoided.

  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-09  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-30 13:31 [PATCH 00/18] Add functionality to ipu3-cio2 driver allowing software_node connections to sensors on platforms designed for Windows Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 01/18] property: Return true in fwnode_device_is_available for node types that do not implement this operation Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:05   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 17:21   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01  3:12   ` Bingbu Cao
2020-12-01  8:46     ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 02/18] property: Add support for calling fwnode_graph_get_endpoint_by_id() for fwnode->secondary Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:08   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 17:29   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 17:28     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 17:53       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 18:41         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 19:21           ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-02 10:13     ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 03/18] software_node: Fix failure to put() and get() references to children in software_node_get_next_child() Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:10   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 17:30   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 04/18] software_node: Enforce parent before child ordering of nodes array for software_node_register_nodes() Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:11   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 16:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 23:10       ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 17:35   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 17:37     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 05/18] software_node: Alter software_node_unregister_nodes() to unregister the array in reverse order Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:14   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 17:45   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 23:36     ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 06/18] software_node: amend software_node_unregister_node_group() to perform unregistration of array in reverse order to be consistent with software_node_unregister_nodes() Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:17   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 17:47     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-02 10:04       ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 17:19   ` kernel test robot
2020-12-01 18:18   ` Dan Carpenter
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 07/18] software_node: Add support for fwnode_graph*() family of functions Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:25   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 23:34     ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 08/18] lib/test_printf.c: Use helper function to unwind array of software_nodes Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 15:54   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-11-30 16:26   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 09/18] ipu3-cio2: Add T: entry to MAINTAINERS Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 10/18] ipu3-cio2: Rename ipu3-cio2.c to allow module to be built from multiple source files retaining ipu3-cio2 name Daniel Scally
2020-12-01  6:56   ` Bingbu Cao
2020-12-01  7:07     ` Bingbu Cao
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 11/18] media: v4l2-core: v4l2-async: Check possible match in match_fwnode based on sd->fwnode->secondary Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:27   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 17:55   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 12/18] acpi: Add acpi_dev_get_next_match_dev() and macro to iterate through acpi_devices matching a given _HID Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 17:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 13/18] ipu3-cio2: Add functionality allowing software_node connections to sensors on platforms designed for Windows Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:45   ` kernel test robot
2020-11-30 17:09   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 18:14     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 22:08     ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 22:11       ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 22:30       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-01 23:15         ` Dan Scally
2020-12-02 10:38         ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-02 10:53           ` Dan Scally
2020-12-02 12:02             ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-02 22:44               ` Dan Scally
2020-12-02 12:01           ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 20:27   ` kernel test robot
2020-11-30 20:35   ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-01  8:13     ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 15:06     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-15 10:28     ` Daniel Scally
2020-12-15 10:32       ` Daniel Scally
2020-12-15 22:02       ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-17 14:17         ` Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 14/18] acpi: utils: Add function to fetch dependent acpi_devices Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 18:23   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 18:40     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 23:54     ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 15:10       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 15:23         ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 15/18] i2c: i2c-core-acpi: Add i2c_acpi_dev_name() Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 17:11   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-02 22:44     ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 16/18] i2c: i2c-core-base: Use the new i2c_acpi_dev_name() in i2c_set_dev_name() Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 17:12   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 19:18     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-02  9:35       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-02  9:49         ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 23:50     ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 17/18] gpio: gpiolib-acpi: Export acpi_get_gpiod() Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 17:02   ` kernel test robot
2020-11-30 18:04   ` kernel test robot
2020-11-30 19:20   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 13:31 ` [PATCH 18/18] ipu3: Add driver for dummy INT3472 ACPI device Daniel Scally
2020-11-30 16:17   ` Jean-Michel Hautbois
2020-11-30 23:20     ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 18:31       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 18:36         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-01 18:51           ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 16:29   ` Kieran Bingham
2020-11-30 17:21     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-11-30 20:07   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-11-30 23:32     ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-01 15:55       ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-01 18:37         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-02 11:09           ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-02 12:42             ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-02 15:08               ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-03 12:37                 ` Dan Scally
2020-12-03 12:57                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 18:49       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 20:59         ` Dan Scally
2020-12-02  9:39           ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-02 12:35             ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-02 15:11               ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-03 12:25             ` Dan Scally
2020-12-13 22:48         ` Daniel Scally
2020-12-14 15:33           ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01  8:30     ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 18:54       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 18:55         ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-01 19:05           ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 19:06             ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-01 19:21               ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 20:34                 ` Hans de Goede
2020-12-01 20:46                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-02 12:48                   ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-02 15:15                     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 21:05                 ` Dan Scally
2020-12-02  9:42                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-07 23:55     ` Daniel Scally
2021-01-08 12:17       ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-08 23:24         ` Daniel Scally
     [not found]           ` <CAHp75Vcy878xKUUUDH5ory9uS-Vhhx_W1PZc=S6hsSLYJ0i60w@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-09  9:58             ` Daniel Scally
2021-01-09  0:18         ` Laurent Pinchart
2021-01-09  0:39           ` Daniel Scally [this message]
2020-11-30 20:52   ` Sakari Ailus
2020-11-30 23:06     ` Dan Scally
2020-11-30 23:21       ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-01  0:05         ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01  6:44       ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-01  8:08         ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01  8:09           ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 12:32           ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-01 12:40             ` Laurent Pinchart
2020-12-01 12:44               ` Sakari Ailus
2020-12-01 12:48             ` Dan Scally
2020-12-01 19:01               ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-12-01 18:55       ` Andy Shevchenko

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