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From: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	<gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, <surenb@google.com>,
	<joaodias@google.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: cma: support sysfs
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:24:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87d7ec1f-d892-0491-a2de-3d0feecca647@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YByNU4Q7cc7gYwPh@google.com>

On 2/4/21 4:12 PM, Minchan Kim wrote:
...
>>> Then, how to know how often CMA API failed?
>>
>> Why would you even need to know that, *in addition* to knowing specific
>> page allocation numbers that failed? Again, there is no real-world motivation
>> cited yet, just "this is good data". Need more stories and support here.
> 
> Let me give an example.
> 
> Let' assume we use memory buffer allocation via CMA for bluetooth
> enable of  device.
> If user clicks the bluetooth button in the phone but fail to allocate
> the memory from CMA, user will still see bluetooth button gray.
> User would think his touch was not enough powerful so he try clicking
> again and fortunately CMA allocation was successful this time and
> they will see bluetooh button enabled and could listen the music.
> 
> Here, product team needs to monitor how often CMA alloc failed so
> if the failure ratio is steadily increased than the bar,
> it means engineers need to go investigation.
> 
> Make sense?
> 

Yes, except that it raises more questions:

1) Isn't this just standard allocation failure? Don't you already have a way
to track that?

Presumably, having the source code, you can easily deduce that a bluetooth
allocation failure goes directly to a CMA allocation failure, right?

Anyway, even though the above is still a little murky, I expect you're right
that it's good to have *some* indication, somewhere about CMA behavior...

Thinking about this some more, I wonder if this is really /proc/vmstat sort
of data that we're talking about. It seems to fit right in there, yes?


thanks,
-- 
John Hubbard
NVIDIA

  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-05  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-03 15:50 [PATCH] mm: cma: support sysfs Minchan Kim
2021-02-04  8:50 ` John Hubbard
2021-02-04 20:07   ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-04 23:14     ` John Hubbard
2021-02-04 23:43       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-02-04 23:45         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-02-05  0:25           ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05  0:34             ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05  1:44               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-02-05  0:12       ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-05  0:24         ` John Hubbard [this message]
2021-02-05  1:44           ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-05  2:39             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-02-05  2:52             ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05  5:17               ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-05  5:49                 ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05  6:24                   ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-05  6:41                     ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05 16:15                       ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-05 20:25                         ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05 21:28                           ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-05 21:52                             ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2021-02-05 21:58                               ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05 22:47                                 ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-06 17:08                                   ` Pintu Agarwal
2021-02-08  8:39                                     ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05 21:57                             ` John Hubbard
2021-02-05  2:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-05  5:22   ` Minchan Kim
2021-02-05 12:12     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-02-05 16:16       ` Minchan Kim

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