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From: jim.cromie@gmail.com
To: Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	akpm@linuxfoundation.org, Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Rasmus Villemoes <linux@rasmusvillemoes.dk>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Orson Zhai <orson.zhai@unisoc.com>,
	Linux Documentation List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 20/21] dyndbg: add user-flag, negating-flags, and filtering on flags
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 15:31:38 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfuBxzXbYHPcLiw9skN-4pehE3M_ztOr3i3YT7dd=HojP2i2w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <172c0580-279f-aa3e-817a-4216067bea10@akamai.com>

On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 1:40 PM Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 6/18/20 3:11 PM, jim.cromie@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 12:17 PM Jason Baron <jbaron@akamai.com> wrote:
> >>

> >
> >> The grouping stuff is already being used by lots of modules so
> >> that seems useful.
> >
> > I now dont see the need.
> >
> > given N debug callsites, any group can be defined by <N queries,
> > probably a lot less
> > if module authors can use ddebug_exec_queries(), cuz its exported, (15/21)
> > then they can act (+p or -p) on those sets defined by <N queries.
> >
> > and now any callsite can be in any number of groups, not just one.
> > It would be prudent to evaluate such groupings case by case,
> > because the intersecting callsites are subject to "last manipulator wins"
> > but its unnecessary to insist that all sets are disjoint.
> > Unlike pr_debug_n, however its spelled.
> >
>
> hmm - so I think you are saying there is then no need to change the
> calling functions themselves - its still 'pr_debug()'. You could even
> use the 'format' qualifier for example to implement your groups that
> way.
>
> For example:
>
> pr_debug("failure type1: blah");
> pr_debug("failure type2: blah blah");
>
> and then do: ddebug_exec_queries("format type1 +p", module);

Exactly

and using format, which always have user relevant info,
and often some severity indication (forex warn info err)
are a workable classification scheme already in use at least informally

So Id expect that this classification can often be done in 1 query.
define the set of callsites in 1 query-string, add +p or -p to it, and
manipulate away.

Amplifying,
this is the only user interface of consequence in dyndbg.
/sys/.../verbose doesnt count

Letting module authors use it is the full-featured way,
everything else is crap (movie reference)
and would require far more maintenance

>
> I would be curious to see what Stanimir thinks of this proposal
> and whether it would work for his venus driver, which is what
> prompted this module group discussion.
>

Indeed.
Id also like to hear from drm folks

./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_SURFACE(...)
pr_debug("[SURFACE]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define
DC_LOG_HW_LINK_TRAINING(...)
pr_debug("[HW_LINK_TRAINING]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_HW_AUDIO(...)
pr_debug("[HW_AUDIO]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_SCALER(...)
pr_debug("[SCALER]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_BIOS(...)
pr_debug("[BIOS]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define
DC_LOG_BANDWIDTH_CALCS(...) pr_debug("[BANDWIDTH_CALCS]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_DML(...)
pr_debug("[DML]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_IF_TRACE(...)
pr_debug("[IF_TRACE]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_GAMMA(...)
pr_debug("[GAMMA]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define DC_LOG_ALL_GAMMA(...)
pr_debug("[GAMMA]:"__VA_ARGS__)
./drm/amd/display/include/logger_types.h:#define
DC_LOG_ALL_TF_CHANNELS(...) pr_debug("[GAMMA]:"__VA_ARGS__)

those defines suggest that they are already doing this with existing formats
with the export,
they can implement this group control using dyndbg with little effort.
including the tie-in to the __debug var if thats useful

and of course, user can add or subtract from that set ad-hoc.

> Thanks,
>
> -Jason

thanks
jimc

  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-18 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-06-17 16:25 [PATCH v3 00/21] dynamic_debug cleanups, query features, export Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/21] dyndbg-docs: eschew file /full/path query in docs Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/21] dyndbg-docs: initialization is done early, not arch Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/21] dyndbg: drop obsolete comment on ddebug_proc_open Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/21] dyndbg: refine debug verbosity; 1 is basic, 2 more chatty Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/21] dyndbg: rename __verbose section to __dyndbg Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/21] dyndbg: fix overcounting of ram used by dyndbg Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/21] dyndbg: fix a BUG_ON in ddebug_describe_flags Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/21] dyndbg: fix pr_err with empty string Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/21] dyndbg: prefer declarative init in caller, to memset in callee Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/21] dyndbg: make ddebug_tables list LIFO for add/remove_module Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/21] dyndbg: use gcc ?: to reduce word count Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/21] dyndbg: refactor parse_linerange out of ddebug_parse_query Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/21] dyndbg: accept 'file foo.c:func1' and 'file foo.c:10-100' Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] dyndbg: accept query terms like file=bar and module=foo Jim Cromie
2020-06-18 22:25   ` jim.cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] dyndbg: accept query terms like file=bar module=foo Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/21] dyndbg: accept query terms like module:foo and file=bar Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/21] dyndbg: export ddebug_exec_queries Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/21] dyndbg: combine flags & mask into a struct, simplify with it Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 17/21] dyndbg: refactor ddebug_read_flags out of ddebug_parse_flags Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 18/21] dyndbg: add filter channel to the internals Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 19/21] dyndbg: extend ddebug_parse_flags to accept optional leading filter-flags Jim Cromie
2020-06-18 12:44   ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-18 14:54     ` jim.cromie
2020-06-18 16:01       ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 20/21] dyndbg: add user-flag, negating-flags, and filtering on flags Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 22:13   ` Joe Perches
2020-06-17 22:57     ` jim.cromie
2020-06-18 16:19   ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-18 17:40     ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-18 18:17       ` Jason Baron
2020-06-18 19:11         ` jim.cromie
2020-06-18 19:40           ` Jason Baron
2020-06-18 21:31             ` jim.cromie [this message]
2020-06-18 22:34             ` Stanimir Varbanov
2020-06-18 22:48               ` jim.cromie
2020-06-19 16:07                 ` Jason Baron
2020-06-19  7:45           ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-19  8:10             ` Petr Mladek
2020-06-19  8:34               ` Greg KH
2020-06-18 18:15     ` jim.cromie
2020-06-17 16:25 ` [PATCH v3 21/21] dyndbg: allow negating flag-chars in modifier flags Jim Cromie
2020-06-17 20:05 ` [PATCH v3 00/21] dynamic_debug cleanups, query features, export Rasmus Villemoes

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