From: Rob Clark <robdclark@chromium.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@bootlin.com>,
Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
Allison Randal <allison@lohutok.net>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] drm: add cache support for arm64
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 09:15:54 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJs_Fx5xU2-dn3iOVqWTzAjpTaQ8BBNP_Gn_iMc-eJpOX+iXoQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190807123807.GD54191@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>
On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 5:38 AM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 09:31:55AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 7:35 AM Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 06, 2019 at 07:11:41AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 1:48 AM Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > This goes in the wrong direction. drm_cflush_* are a bad API we need to
> > > > > get rid of, not add use of it. The reason for that is two-fold:
> > > > >
> > > > > a) it doesn't address how cache maintaince actually works in most
> > > > > platforms. When talking about a cache we three fundamental operations:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) write back - this writes the content of the cache back to the
> > > > > backing memory
> > > > > 2) invalidate - this remove the content of the cache
> > > > > 3) write back + invalidate - do both of the above
> > > >
> > > > Agreed that drm_cflush_* isn't a great API. In this particular case
> > > > (IIUC), I need wb+inv so that there aren't dirty cache lines that drop
> > > > out to memory later, and so that I don't get a cache hit on
> > > > uncached/wc mmap'ing.
> > >
> > > Is there a cacheable alias lying around (e.g. the linear map), or are
> > > these addresses only mapped uncached/wc?
> > >
> > > If there's a cacheable alias, performing an invalidate isn't sufficient,
> > > since a CPU can allocate a new (clean) entry at any point in time (e.g.
> > > as a result of prefetching or arbitrary speculation).
> >
> > I *believe* that there are not alias mappings (that I don't control
> > myself) for pages coming from
> > shmem_file_setup()/shmem_read_mapping_page()..
>
> AFAICT, that's regular anonymous memory, so there will be a cacheable
> alias in the linear/direct map.
tbh, I'm not 100% sure whether there is a cacheable alias, or whether
any potential linear map is torn down. My understanding is that a
cacheable alias is "ok", with some caveats.. ie. that the cacheable
alias is not accessed. I'm not entirely sure about pre-fetch from
access to adjacent pages. We have been using shmem as a source for
pages since the beginning, and I haven't seen it cause any problems in
the last 6 years. (This is limited to armv7 and armv8, I'm not really
sure what would happen on armv6, but that is a combo I don't have to
care about.)
BR,
-R
> > digging around at what dma_sync_sg_* does under the hood, it looks
> > like it is just arch_sync_dma_for_cpu/device(), so I guess that should
> > be sufficient for what I need.
>
> I don't think that's the case, per the example I gave above.
>
> Thanks,
> Mark.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-08-07 16:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-08-05 21:14 [PATCH 1/2] drm: add cache support for arm64 Rob Clark
2019-08-05 21:14 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/msm: use drm_cache when available Rob Clark
2019-08-06 8:48 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm: add cache support for arm64 Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-06 9:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-06 11:38 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-06 14:11 ` Rob Clark
2019-08-06 14:34 ` Mark Rutland
2019-08-06 16:31 ` Rob Clark
2019-08-07 12:38 ` Mark Rutland
2019-08-07 16:15 ` Rob Clark [this message]
2019-08-07 16:49 ` Mark Rutland
2019-08-07 17:30 ` Rob Clark
2019-08-08 7:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-08 16:44 ` Rob Clark
2019-08-09 8:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-08 7:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-08 10:20 ` Mark Rutland
2019-08-08 10:24 ` Mark Rutland
2019-08-08 10:32 ` Will Deacon
2019-08-08 7:53 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-06 15:50 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-06 16:23 ` Rob Clark
2019-08-06 16:26 ` Rob Clark
2019-08-07 6:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-07 8:48 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-08 9:55 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-08 11:58 ` Daniel Vetter
2019-08-09 8:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-07 16:09 ` Rob Clark
2019-08-08 10:00 ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-08-08 16:32 ` Rob Clark
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