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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Radim Krcmar <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@gmail.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Matt Rickard <matt@softrans.com.au>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	devel@linuxdriverproject.org,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2018 22:15:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALCETrU+jP2hPLoJWTYJKTvr7-=YLwtk1=cZ_uizHYQZ1z4P-w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180914125006.349747096@linutronix.de>

Hi Vitaly, Paolo, Radim, etc.,

On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 5:52 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>
> Matt attempted to add CLOCK_TAI support to the VDSO clock_gettime()
> implementation, which extended the clockid switch case and added yet
> another slightly different copy of the same code.
>
> Especially the extended switch case is problematic as the compiler tends to
> generate a jump table which then requires to use retpolines. If jump tables
> are disabled it adds yet another conditional to the existing maze.
>
> This series takes a different approach by consolidating the almost
> identical functions into one implementation for high resolution clocks and
> one for the coarse grained clock ids by storing the base data for each
> clock id in an array which is indexed by the clock id.
>

I was trying to understand more of the implications of this patch
series, and I was again reminded that there is an entire extra copy of
the vclock reading code in arch/x86/kvm/x86.c.  And the purpose of
that code is very, very opaque.

Can one of you explain what the code is even doing?  From a couple of
attempts to read through it, it's a whole bunch of
probably-extremely-buggy code that, drumroll please, tries to
atomically read the TSC value and the time.  And decide whether the
result is "based on the TSC".  And then synthesizes a TSC-to-ns
multiplier and shift, based on *something other than the actual
multiply and shift used*.

IOW, unless I'm totally misunderstanding it, the code digs into the
private arch clocksource data intended for the vDSO, uses a poorly
maintained copy of the vDSO code to read the time (instead of doing
the sane thing and using the kernel interfaces for this), and
propagates a totally made up copy to the guest.  And gets it entirely
wrong when doing nested virt, since, unless there's some secret in
this maze, it doesn't acutlaly use the scaling factor from the host
when it tells the guest what to do.

I am really, seriously tempted to send a patch to simply delete all
this code.  The correct way to do it is to hook

And I don't see how it's even possible to pass kvmclock correctly to
the L2 guest when L0 is hyperv.  KVM could pass *hyperv's* clock, but
L1 isn't notified when the data structure changes, so how the heck is
it supposed to update the kvmclock structure?

--Andy

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03  5:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-14 12:50 [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 01/11] clocksource: Provide clocksource_arch_init() Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 02/11] x86/time: Implement clocksource_arch_init() Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 15:45   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-15  6:05     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 03/11] x86/vdso: Enforce 64bit clocksource Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 04/11] x86/vdso: Use unsigned int consistently for vsyscall_gtod_data::seq Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 05/11] x86/vdso: Introduce and use vgtod_ts Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 06/11] x86/vdso: Collapse high resolution functions Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 07/11] x86/vdso: Collapse coarse functions Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 08/11] x86/vdso: Replace the clockid switch case Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 09/11] x86/vdso: Simplify the invalid vclock case Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-17 19:25   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-17 20:12     ` John Stultz
2018-09-18  7:52       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18  8:30         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18  8:52           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 10:06             ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 10:41               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 12:48                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 13:23                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 13:38                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-18 15:52                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:41                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 14:01         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18 22:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-18 23:03             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-18 23:16               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:36                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-27 14:39                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-19  9:08             ` Rasmus Villemoes
2018-09-19 13:29               ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 10/11] x86/vdso: Move cycle_last handling into the caller Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 15:26   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-09-14 12:50 ` [patch 11/11] x66/vdso: Add CLOCK_TAI support Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 14:04   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-14 14:27     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 14:59       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-09-16  9:39         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 12:56 ` [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and " Florian Weimer
2018-09-14 13:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 13:06     ` Florian Weimer
2018-09-14 13:19       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-14 13:09   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-09-14 14:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-09-17 13:00   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-09-24 21:08     ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-10-03  5:15 ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
2018-10-03  9:22   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 10:20     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 12:01       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-03 14:20         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 15:10           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-10-03 16:18             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-03 19:06     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-04  7:54       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-04  8:11         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 14:00           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 19:31             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-10-04 20:05               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 22:15                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-06 20:27                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-06 22:28                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-08 15:26                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-08 17:38                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-08 19:36                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-09 20:09                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-11 22:27                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-11 23:00                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-15 13:39                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-06 20:49                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-04 12:00         ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-10-04 14:04           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-05 21:18         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 19:00   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 19:05     ` [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support\ Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-03 22:32     ` [patch 00/11] x86/vdso: Cleanups, simmplifications and CLOCK_TAI support Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 16:37       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2018-10-04 17:08         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-10-04 17:28           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2018-10-04 20:32 ` Andy Lutomirski

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