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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
To: Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Nathan Chancellor <nathan@kernel.org>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Sedat Dilek <sedat.dilek@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 17:55:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMj1kXEojTj_5_wSfS+qJZycgKG8i8qK2uWRaHM3B0T4VQnDkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CABCJKufpS4jJxHqk8=bd1JCNbKfmLDKBbjbhjrar2+YQJFiprg@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 17:50, Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 7:18 AM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 27 Oct 2021 at 16:03, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 03:30:11PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> > >
> > > > As far as I can tell from playing around with Clang, the stubs can
> > > > actually be executed directly,
> > >
> > > I had just finished reading the clang docs which suggest as much and was
> > > about to try what the compiler actually generates.
> > >
> > > > they just jumps to the actual function.
> > > > The compiler simply generates a jump table for each prototype that
> > > > appears in the code as the target of an indirect jump, and checks
> > > > whether the target appears in the list.
> > > >
> > > > E.g., the code below
> > > >
> > > > void foo(void) {}
> > > > void bar(int) {}
> > > > void baz(int) {}
> > > > void (* volatile fn1)(void) = foo;
> > > > void (* volatile fn2)(int) = bar;
> > > >
> > > > int main(int argc, char *argv[])
> > > > {
> > > >   fn1();
> > > >   fn2 = baz;
> > > >   fn2(-1);
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > produces
> > > >
> > > > 0000000000400594 <foo.cfi>:
> > > >   400594: d65f03c0 ret
> > > >
> > > > 0000000000400598 <bar.cfi>:
> > > >   400598: d65f03c0 ret
> > > >
> > > > 000000000040059c <baz.cfi>:
> > > >   40059c: d65f03c0 ret
> > >
> > > Right, so these are the actual functions ^.
> > >
> > > > 00000000004005a0 <main>:
> > > >   4005a0: a9bf7bfd stp x29, x30, [sp, #-16]!
> > > >
> > > > // First indirect call
> > > >   4005a4: b0000088 adrp x8, 411000 <__libc_start_main@GLIBC_2.17>
> > > >   4005a8: f9401508 ldr x8, [x8, #40]
> > > >   4005ac: 90000009 adrp x9, 400000 <__abi_tag-0x278>
> > > >   4005b0: 91182129 add x9, x9, #0x608
> > > >   4005b4: 910003fd mov x29, sp
> > > >   4005b8: eb09011f cmp x8, x9
> > > >   4005bc: 54000241 b.ne 400604 <main+0x64>  // b.any
> > > >   4005c0: d63f0100 blr x8
> > >
> > > That's impenetrable to me, sorry.
> > >
> >
> > This loads the value of fn1 in x8, and takes the address of the jump
> > table in x9. Since it is only one entry long, it does a simple compare
> > to check whether x8 appears in the jump table, and branches to the BRK
> > at the end if they are different.
> >
> > > > // Assignment of fn2
> > > >   4005c4: 90000009 adrp x9, 400000 <__abi_tag-0x278>
> > > >   4005c8: b0000088 adrp x8, 411000 <__libc_start_main@GLIBC_2.17>
> > > >   4005cc: 91184129 add x9, x9, #0x610
> > > >   4005d0: f9001909 str x9, [x8, #48]
> > >
> > > I'm struggling here, x9 points to the branch at 400610, but then what?
> > >
> > > x8 is in .data somewhere?
> > >
> >
> > This takes the address of the jump table entry of 'baz' in x9, and
> > stores it in fn2 whose address is taken in x8.
> >
> >
> > > > // Second indirect call
> > > >   4005d4: f9401908 ldr x8, [x8, #48]
> > > >   4005d8: 90000009 adrp x9, 400000 <__abi_tag-0x278>
> > > >   4005dc: 91183129 add x9, x9, #0x60c
> > > >   4005e0: cb090109 sub x9, x8, x9
> > > >   4005e4: 93c90929 ror x9, x9, #2
> > > >   4005e8: f100053f cmp x9, #0x1
> > > >   4005ec: 540000c8 b.hi 400604 <main+0x64>  // b.pmore
> > > >   4005f0: 12800000 mov w0, #0xffffffff            // #-1
> > > >   4005f4: d63f0100 blr x8
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >   4005f8: 2a1f03e0 mov w0, wzr
> > > >   4005fc: a8c17bfd ldp x29, x30, [sp], #16
> > > >   400600: d65f03c0 ret
> > > >   400604: d4200020 brk #0x1
> > >
> > >
> > > > 0000000000400608 <__typeid__ZTSFvvE_global_addr>:
> > > >   400608: 17ffffe3 b 400594 <foo.cfi>
> > > >
> > > > 000000000040060c <__typeid__ZTSFviE_global_addr>:
> > > >   40060c: 17ffffe3 b 400598 <bar.cfi>
> > > >   400610: 17ffffe3 b 40059c <baz.cfi>
> > >
> > > And these are the stubs per type.
> > >
> > > > So it looks like taking the address is fine, although not optimal due
> > > > to the additional jump.
> > >
> > > Right.
> > >
> >
> > ... although it does seem that function_nocfi() doesn't actually work
> > as expected, given that we want the address of <func>.cfi and not the
> > address of the stub.
>
> This is because the example wasn't compiled with
> -fno-sanitize-cfi-canonical-jump-tables, which we use in the kernel.
> With non-canonical jump tables, <func> continues to point to the
> function and <func>.cfi_jt points to the jump table, and therefore,
> function_nocfi() returns the raw function address.
>

Ah excellent. So that means that we don't need function_nocfi() at
all, given that
- statically allocated references (i.e., DEFINE_STATIC_CALL()) will
refer to the function directly;
- runtime assignments can decode the target of the *func pointer and
strip off the initial branch.

It would still be nice to have an intrinsic for that, or some variable
attribute that signifies that assigning the address of a function to
it will produce the actual function rather than the jump table entry.

> > > > We could fudge around that by checking the
> > > > opcode at the target of the call, or token paste ".cfi" after the
> > > > symbol name in the static_call_update() macro, but it doesn't like
> > > > like anything is terminally broken tbh.
> > >
> > > Agreed, since the jump table entries are actually executable it 'works'.
> > >
> > > I really don't like that extra jump though, so I think I really do want
> > > that nocfi_ptr() thing. And going by:
> > >
> > >   https://clang.llvm.org/docs/ControlFlowIntegrityDesign.html#forward-edge-cfi-for-indirect-function-calls
> > >
> > > and the above, that might be possible (on x86) with something like:
> > >
> > > /*
> > >  * Turns a Clang CFI jump-table entry into an actual function pointer.
> > >  * These jump-table entries are simply jmp.d32 instruction with their
> > >  * relative offset pointing to the actual function, therefore decode the
> > >  * instruction to find the real function.
> > >  */
> > > static __always_inline void *nocfi_ptr(void *func)
> > > {
> > >         union text_poke_insn insn = *(union text_poke_insn *)func;
> > >
> > >         return func + sizeof(insn) + insn.disp;
> > > }
> > >
> > > But really, that wants to be a compiler intrinsic.
> >
> > Agreed. We could easily do something similar on arm64, but I'd prefer
> > to avoid that too.
>
> I'll see what we can do. Note that the compiler built-in we previously
> discussed would have semantics similar to function_nocfi(). It would
> return the raw function address from a symbol name, but it wouldn't
> decode the address from an arbitrary pointer, so this would require
> something different.
>
> Sami

  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-27 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-13 18:16 [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 01/15] objtool: Add CONFIG_CFI_CLANG support Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:59   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-14  0:44   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-14 10:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-14 19:20     ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 02/15] objtool: Add ASM_STACK_FRAME_NON_STANDARD Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:59   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 03/15] linkage: Add DECLARE_NOT_CALLED_FROM_C Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:00   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-15  2:51   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 15:35     ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 15:55     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 16:22       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 16:47         ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 17:34           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 17:57       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 18:42         ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 19:35           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 20:37             ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-16 21:12               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-18 17:08                 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 22:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-16 21:16             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 04/15] cfi: Add DEFINE_CFI_IMMEDIATE_RETURN_STUB Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:02   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 05/15] tracepoint: Exclude tp_stub_func from CFI checking Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:03   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 19:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 06/15] ftrace: Use an opaque type for functions not callable from C Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:04   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 19:20   ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 07/15] lkdtm: Disable UNSET_SMEP with CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 08/15] lkdtm: Use an opaque type for lkdtm_rodata_do_nothing Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 09/15] x86: Use an opaque type for functions not callable from C Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-14 11:21   ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-14 16:07     ` Kees Cook
2021-10-14 17:31       ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-14 18:24         ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-14 19:00           ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-10-14 18:47         ` Kees Cook
2021-10-14 18:52           ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-14 19:06             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 10/15] x86/purgatory: Disable CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:05   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 11/15] x86, relocs: Ignore __typeid__ relocations Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 12/15] x86, module: " Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:55   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 13/15] x86, cpu: Use LTO for cpu.c with CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 14/15] x86, kprobes: Fix optprobe_template_func type mismatch Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 15/15] x86, build: Allow CONFIG_CFI_CLANG to be selected Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:56   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 19:07 ` [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI Kees Cook
2021-10-19 10:06 ` Alexander Lobakin
2021-10-19 15:40   ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-21 10:27 ` Alexander Lobakin
2021-10-26 20:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 10:02   ` David Laight
2021-10-27 10:17     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 12:05   ` Mark Rutland
2021-10-27 12:22     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-27 12:48       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 13:04         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 13:30           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-27 14:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 14:18               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-27 14:36                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 15:50                 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-27 15:55                   ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2021-10-29 20:03                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30  7:47                     ` [PATCH] static_call,x86: Robustify trampoline patching Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30  8:16                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 17:35                         ` Kees Cook
2021-11-02 18:15                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-15 13:09                         ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-10-30 17:19                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-30 18:02                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30 18:55                           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 16:24                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 16:39                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-31 16:44                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 20:09                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-31 20:21                                     ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 20:44                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-31 23:36                                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-01  9:01                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-01  9:36                                             ` David Laight
2021-11-01 14:14                                             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-02 12:57                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 15:15                                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 17:44                                                   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-02 18:14                                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 18:17                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 18:18                                                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-02 21:48                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 18:10                                                 ` Kees Cook
2021-11-02 21:02                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-11-02 23:13                                                     ` Kees Cook
2021-11-03  0:20                                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-11-03  8:35                                                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-03 10:01                                                           ` David Laight
2021-11-03 19:32                                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-11-02 21:19                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 12:15                       ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30 19:07                     ` [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-27 17:11           ` Kees Cook
2021-10-27 21:21             ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 22:27               ` Kees Cook
2021-10-28 11:09                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-28 17:12                   ` Kees Cook
2021-10-28 20:29                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 17:26                       ` Kees Cook
2021-11-01  4:13                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-27 12:46     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 12:55     ` David Laight
2021-10-27 13:17       ` Mark Rutland
2021-10-27 21:31         ` David Laight

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