From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: 'Mark Rutland' <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
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Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI
Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2021 21:31:21 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fba51c06395740afa325bbccc8bff170@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211027131730.GF54628@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>
From: Mark Rutland
> Sent: 27 October 2021 14:18
>
> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:55:17PM +0000, David Laight wrote:
> > From: Mark Rutland
> > > Sent: 27 October 2021 13:05
> > ...
> > > Taking a step back, it'd be nicer if we didn't have the jump-table shim
> > > at all, and had some SW landing pad (e.g. a NOP with some magic bytes)
> > > in the callees that the caller could check for. Then function pointers
> > > would remain callable in call cases, and we could explcitly add landing
> > > pads to asm to protect those. I *think* that's what the grsecurity folk
> > > do, but I could be mistaken.
> >
> > It doesn't need to be a 'landing pad'.
> > The 'magic value' could be at 'label - 8'.
>
> Sure; I'd intended to mean the general case of something at some fixed
> offset from the entrypoint, either before or after, potentially but not
> necessarily inline in the executed instruction stream.
What you really want is to be able to read the value using the I-cache
so as not to pollute the D-cache with code bytes and to avoid having
both an I-cache and D-cache miss at the same time for the same memory.
Even if the I-cache read took an extra clock (or two) I suspect it
would be an overall gain.
This is also true for code that uses pc-relative instructions to
read constants - common in arm-64.
Not sure any hardware lets you do that though :-(
David
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Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-13 18:16 [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 01/15] objtool: Add CONFIG_CFI_CLANG support Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:59 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-14 0:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-14 10:22 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-14 19:20 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 02/15] objtool: Add ASM_STACK_FRAME_NON_STANDARD Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:59 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 03/15] linkage: Add DECLARE_NOT_CALLED_FROM_C Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:00 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-15 2:51 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 15:35 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 15:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 16:22 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 16:47 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 17:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 17:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-15 18:42 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 19:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-15 20:37 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-16 21:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-18 17:08 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-15 22:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-10-16 21:16 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 04/15] cfi: Add DEFINE_CFI_IMMEDIATE_RETURN_STUB Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:02 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 05/15] tracepoint: Exclude tp_stub_func from CFI checking Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:03 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 19:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 06/15] ftrace: Use an opaque type for functions not callable from C Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:04 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 19:20 ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 07/15] lkdtm: Disable UNSET_SMEP with CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 08/15] lkdtm: Use an opaque type for lkdtm_rodata_do_nothing Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 09/15] x86: Use an opaque type for functions not callable from C Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-14 11:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-14 16:07 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-14 17:31 ` Borislav Petkov
2021-10-14 18:24 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-14 19:00 ` Nick Desaulniers
2021-10-14 18:47 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-14 18:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2021-10-14 19:06 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 10/15] x86/purgatory: Disable CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 19:05 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 11/15] x86, relocs: Ignore __typeid__ relocations Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 12/15] x86, module: " Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:55 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 13/15] x86, cpu: Use LTO for cpu.c with CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 14/15] x86, kprobes: Fix optprobe_template_func type mismatch Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:16 ` [PATCH v5 15/15] x86, build: Allow CONFIG_CFI_CLANG to be selected Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-13 18:56 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-13 19:07 ` [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI Kees Cook
2021-10-19 10:06 ` Alexander Lobakin
2021-10-19 15:40 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-21 10:27 ` Alexander Lobakin
2021-10-26 20:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 10:02 ` David Laight
2021-10-27 10:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 12:05 ` Mark Rutland
2021-10-27 12:22 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-27 12:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 13:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 13:30 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-27 14:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 14:18 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-27 14:36 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 15:50 ` Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-27 15:55 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-29 20:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30 7:47 ` [PATCH] static_call,x86: Robustify trampoline patching Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30 8:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 17:35 ` Kees Cook
2021-11-02 18:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-15 13:09 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2021-10-30 17:19 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-30 18:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30 18:55 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 16:24 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 16:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-31 16:44 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 20:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-31 20:21 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-10-31 20:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-31 23:36 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-01 9:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-01 9:36 ` David Laight
2021-11-01 14:14 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-02 12:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 15:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 17:44 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-02 18:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 18:17 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 18:18 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2021-11-02 21:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 18:10 ` Kees Cook
2021-11-02 21:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-11-02 23:13 ` Kees Cook
2021-11-03 0:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-11-03 8:35 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-03 10:01 ` David Laight
2021-11-03 19:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-11-02 21:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-11 12:15 ` [tip: locking/urgent] " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-30 19:07 ` [PATCH v5 00/15] x86: Add support for Clang CFI Sami Tolvanen
2021-10-27 17:11 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-27 21:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 22:27 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-28 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-28 17:12 ` Kees Cook
2021-10-28 20:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-11-02 17:26 ` Kees Cook
2021-11-01 4:13 ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-10-27 12:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-10-27 12:55 ` David Laight
2021-10-27 13:17 ` Mark Rutland
2021-10-27 21:31 ` David Laight [this message]
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