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From: Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>
To: leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com
Cc: riel@redhat.com, minchan@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com,
	mel@csn.ul.ie, rientjes@google.com, kosaki.motohiro@gmail.com,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, rhod@redhat.com,
	kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/3] /dev/low_mem_notify
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:15:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOJsxLGiG_Bsp8eMtqCjFToxYAPCE4HC9XCebpZ+-G8E3gg5bw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84FF21A720B0874AA94B46D76DB98269045596AE@008-AM1MPN1-003.mgdnok.nokia.com>

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM,  <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com> wrote:
> Would be possible to not use percents for thesholds? Accounting in pages even
> not so difficult to user-space.

How does that work with memory hotplug?

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM,  <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com> wrote:
> Also, looking on vmnotify_match I understand that events propagated to
> user-space only in case threshold trigger change state from 0 to 1 but not
> back, 1-> 0 is very useful event as well.
>
> Would be possible to use for threshold pointed value(s) e.g. according to
> enum zone_state_item, because kinds of memory to track could be different?
> E.g. to tracking paging activity NR_ACTIVE_ANON and NR_ACTIVE_FILE could be
> interesting, not only free.

I don't think there's anything in the ABI that would prevent that.

>> +struct vmnotify_event {
>> +     /* Size of the struct for ABI extensibility. */
>> +     __u32                   size;
>> +
>> +     __u64                   nr_avail_pages;
>> +
>> +     __u64                   nr_swap_pages;
>> +
>> +     __u64                   nr_free_pages;
>> +};
>
> Two fields here most likely session-constant, (nr_avail_pages and
> nr_swap_pages), seems not much sense to report them in every event.  If we
> have memory/swap hotplug user-space can use sysinfo() call.

I actually changed the ABI to look like this:

struct vmnotify_event {
        /*
         * Size of the struct for ABI extensibility.
         */
        __u32                   size;

        __u64                   attrs;

        __u64                   attr_values[];
};

So userspace can decide which fields to include in notifications.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 11:06 AM,  <leonid.moiseichuk@nokia.com> wrote:
>> +static void vmnotify_sample(struct vmnotify_watch *watch) {
> ...
>> +     si_meminfo(&si);
>> +     event.nr_avail_pages    = si.totalram;
>> +
>> +#ifdef CONFIG_SWAP
>> +     si_swapinfo(&si);
>> +     event.nr_swap_pages     = si.totalswap;
>> +#endif
>> +
>
> Why not to use global_page_state() directly? si_meminfo() and especial
> si_swapinfo are quite expensive call.

Sure, we can do that. Feel free to send a patch :-).

>> +static void vmnotify_start_timer(struct vmnotify_watch *watch) {
>> +     u64 sample_period = watch->config.sample_period_ns;
>> +
>> +     hrtimer_init(&watch->timer, CLOCK_MONOTONIC,
>> HRTIMER_MODE_REL);
>> +     watch->timer.function = vmnotify_timer_fn;
>> +
>> +     hrtimer_start(&watch->timer, ns_to_ktime(sample_period),
>> +HRTIMER_MODE_REL_PINNED); }
>
> Do I understand correct you allocate timer for every user-space client and
> propagate events every pointed interval?  What will happened with system if
> we have a timer but need to turn CPU off? The timer must not be a reason to
> wakeup if user-space is sleeping.

No idea what happens. The sampling code is just a proof of concept thing and I
expect it to be buggy as hell. :-)

			Pekka

  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-18  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-17  8:13 [RFC 0/3] low memory notify Minchan Kim
2012-01-17  8:13 ` [RFC 1/3] /dev/low_mem_notify Minchan Kim
2012-01-17  9:27   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-17 16:35     ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-17 18:51       ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-17 19:30         ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-17 19:49           ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-17 19:54             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-17 19:57             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-17 23:20         ` Minchan Kim
2012-01-18  7:16           ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-18  7:49             ` Minchan Kim
2012-01-18  9:06         ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-18  9:15           ` Pekka Enberg [this message]
2012-01-18  9:41             ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-18 10:40               ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-18 10:44                 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-18 23:34                   ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-19  7:25                     ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-19  9:05                       ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-19  9:10                         ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-19  9:20                           ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-19 10:53                             ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-19 11:07                               ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-19 11:54                                 ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-19 11:59                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-19 12:06                                   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-24 15:38                               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-24 16:08                                 ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-24 18:10                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-25  8:52                                     ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-25 10:12                                       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-25 10:48                                         ` Ronen Hod
2012-01-26 16:17                                           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-24 16:10                                 ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-24 18:29                                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-25  8:19                                   ` leonid.moiseichuk
2012-01-19  7:34                   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-24 16:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-18 14:30           ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-18 15:29             ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-24 15:40         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-24 16:01           ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-24 16:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
2012-01-24 18:32               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2012-01-24 21:57         ` Jonathan Corbet
2012-01-17  9:45   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-17  8:13 ` [RFC 2/3] vmscan hook Minchan Kim
2012-01-17  8:39   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-17  9:13     ` Minchan Kim
2012-01-17 10:05       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-17 23:08         ` Minchan Kim
2012-01-18  0:18           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-18 14:17             ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-19  2:25               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-19 14:42                 ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-20  0:24                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-01-17  8:13 ` [RFC 3/3] test program Minchan Kim
2012-01-17 14:38 ` [RFC 0/3] low memory notify Colin Walters
2012-01-17 15:04   ` Pekka Enberg
2012-01-17 16:44   ` Rik van Riel
2012-01-17 17:16 ` Olof Johansson

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