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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
To: Davide Libenzi <davidel@xmailserver.org>
Cc: Andrea Arcangeli <andrea@suse.de>, Jeff Dike <jdike@karaya.com>,
	<user-mode-linux-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Hubicka <jh@suse.cz>,
	Jonathan Lundell <jlundell@pobox.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@math.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: user-mode port 0.44-2.4.7
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2001 10:38:45 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107241037120.29495-100000@penguin.transmeta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.20010724103157.davidel@xmailserver.org>


On Tue, 24 Jul 2001, Davide Libenzi wrote:
>
> Not that much if you look at how incl is "decomposed" internally ( w/o LOCK )
> by the CPU. If you really care about  j  you need an atomic op here, in any case.

Yes, but the "inc" is atomic at least on a UP system. So here "volatile"
might actually _show_ bugs instead of hiding them.

The real isssue, though, is that that is all volatile ever does. It can
show or hide bugs, but it can't fix them.

Of course, some people consider hidden bugs to _be_ fixed. I don't believe
in that particulat philosophy myself.

		Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2001-07-24 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-23  5:08 user-mode port 0.44-2.4.7 Jeff Dike
2001-07-23 15:56 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 15:59   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:17     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:51       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 16:33   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 16:45     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 17:32       ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 17:50         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 18:11           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 18:27             ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 20:00               ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 20:15                 ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-23 22:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24  3:45                     ` Jonathan Lundell
2001-07-24 15:41                       ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 15:46                         ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-24 16:01                           ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 16:08                             ` Alexander Viro
2001-07-24 16:52                               ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 16:59                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 17:31                                   ` Davide Libenzi
2001-07-24 17:38                                     ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2001-07-24 18:07                               ` Anton Altaparmakov
2001-07-23 20:44                 ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-23 21:11                   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 21:50                   ` Richard Gooch
2001-07-23 22:09                     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 13:20                       ` Rob Landley
2001-07-23 22:27                         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-23 17:50                           ` Rob Landley
2001-07-23 23:47                     ` Richard Gooch
2001-07-24  0:04                       ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-24  9:02                         ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-24 15:35                           ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-24 16:04                         ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 22:49                           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2001-07-25 23:16                             ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-25 23:37                               ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-26 18:28                             ` Jan Hubicka
2001-07-26 18:35                               ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 22:53                   ` Linus Torvalds
2001-07-23 23:13                     ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 20:25   ` Jeff Dike
     [not found] <no.id>
2001-07-23 20:57 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-23 21:14   ` Chris Friesen
2001-07-25 19:12 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-25 23:49 ` Alan Cox
2001-07-25 19:03 James W. Lake

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