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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Cc: dean gaudet <dean-list-linux-kernel@arctic.org>,
	Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Native POSIX Thread Library 0.1
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 07:06:46 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0209210702320.2441-100000@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020921040121.GA3895@gnuppy.monkey.org>


On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Bill Huey wrote:

> > doesn't the hotspot GC work something like this:
> > 
> > - stop all threads
> > - go read each thread's $pc, and find its nearest "safety point"
> > - go overwrite that safety point (YUCK SELF MODIFYING CODE!! :) with
> >   something which will stop the thread
> > - start the threads and wait for them all to get to their safety points
> > - perform gc
> > - undo the above mess
> 
> + read the entire ucontext for EAX, etc... so that it can be used for GC
> roots. It could be allocating something in an executing method block
> that hasn't hit stack or any kind of variable storage known to the GC.

PTRACE_GETREGS. Yeah, it's overhead, see my previous mails about various
levels of kernel features of how to do it potentially cheaper. Not like
the above process is particularly fast.

One more method to speed it up: to amortize the kernel entry overhead we
could introduce a new PTRACE_GETREGS_GROUP to get a full array of user
contexts from all group member threads, via a single system-call.

> > the only part of that which looks challenging with kernel threads is the
> > $pc reading part...  ptrace will certainly get it for you, but that's a
> > lot of syscall overhead.
> 
> And the entire ucontext.

PTRACE_GETREGS gets you the instruction pointer and all general purpose 
registers, eax and the rest.

	Ingo


  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-21  4:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-09-20  0:41 [ANNOUNCE] Native POSIX Thread Library 0.1 Ulrich Drepper
2002-09-20  0:51 ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-20  1:35   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-09-20  1:42     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-20  1:56 ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-20  2:01 ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-20  2:15   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2002-09-20  2:40     ` Dave Hansen
2002-09-20  2:47     ` William Lee Irwin III
2002-09-20  2:17   ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-20  2:24     ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-20  2:32       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-09-20  6:01       ` Linus Torvalds
2002-09-20  8:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-20  2:23   ` Anton Blanchard
2002-09-20  7:52   ` 100,000 threads? [was: [ANNOUNCE] Native POSIX Thread Library 0.1] Ingo Molnar
2002-09-20 15:47     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-20  9:53 ` [ANNOUNCE] Native POSIX Thread Library 0.1 Padraig Brady
2002-09-20 13:28   ` Robert Love
2002-09-20 16:01     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-20  9:54 ` Adrian Bunk
2002-09-20 10:53   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-20 19:04   ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-09-20 23:06     ` J.A. Magallon
2002-09-20 23:33       ` Ulrich Drepper
2002-09-20 23:42         ` J.A. Magallon
2002-09-20 10:20 ` Bill Huey
2002-09-20 10:47   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-20 12:06     ` Bill Huey
2002-09-20 16:20       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-20 21:50         ` Bill Huey
2002-09-20 22:30           ` dean gaudet
2002-09-20 23:11             ` Bill Huey
2002-09-21  3:38               ` dean gaudet
2002-09-21  4:01                 ` Bill Huey
2002-09-21  5:06                   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2002-09-20 23:45           ` Bill Huey
2002-09-21  4:58             ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-22  2:51               ` Bill Huey
2002-09-21  4:48           ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-22  1:38             ` Bill Huey
2002-09-22 13:38           ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-22 18:41             ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-09-22 22:13               ` dean gaudet
2002-09-26 17:21                 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-23  0:11               ` Bill Huey
2002-09-24 16:07                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-09-24 23:21                   ` Bill Huey
2002-09-25  3:06                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2002-09-23 21:12             ` Bill Huey
2002-09-20 10:35 ` Luca Barbieri
2002-09-20 11:19   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-20 18:40     ` Roland McGrath
2002-09-20 21:21       ` Luca Barbieri
2002-09-20 12:37 ` jlnance
2002-09-20 16:42   ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-24  0:40     ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-24  5:47       ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-24  6:15         ` Rusty Russell
2002-09-20 15:43 ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-20 16:15   ` Jakub Jelinek
2002-09-20 17:16     ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-20  7:46 Joerg Pommnitz
2002-09-22 18:55 Peter Waechtler
2002-09-22 21:32 ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-23 10:05   ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-23 11:55     ` Peter Waechtler
2002-09-23 19:14       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-29 23:26         ` Buddy Lumpkin
2002-09-30 14:54           ` Corey Minyard
2002-09-23 15:30     ` Larry McVoy
2002-09-23 19:44       ` Olivier Galibert
2002-09-23 19:48       ` Bill Davidsen
2002-09-23 20:32         ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-24  0:03           ` Andy Isaacson
2002-09-24  0:10             ` Jeff Garzik
2002-09-24  0:14               ` Andy Isaacson
2002-09-24  5:53             ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-24 20:34             ` David Schwartz
2002-09-24  7:12           ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-24  7:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-23 22:35         ` Mark Mielke
2002-09-23 19:59       ` Peter Waechtler
2002-09-23 20:36         ` Ingo Molnar
2002-09-23 21:08           ` Peter Wächtler
2002-09-23 22:44             ` Mark Mielke
2002-09-23 23:01               ` Bill Huey
2002-09-23 23:11                 ` Mark Mielke
2002-09-24  0:21                   ` Bill Huey
2002-09-24  3:20                     ` Mark Mielke
2002-09-23 23:57           ` Andy Isaacson
2002-09-24 18:10             ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-09-23 21:32       ` Bill Huey
2002-09-23 21:41       ` dean gaudet
2002-09-23 22:10         ` Bill Huey
2002-09-23 22:56         ` Mark Mielke
2002-09-24 10:02       ` Nikita Danilov
2002-09-23 21:22     ` Bill Huey
2002-09-23 21:03 ` Bill Huey
2002-09-24 12:03   ` Michael Sinz
2002-09-24 13:40     ` Peter Svensson
2002-09-24 14:20       ` Michael Sinz
2002-09-24 20:19 ` David Schwartz
2002-09-24 21:10   ` Chris Friesen
2002-09-24 21:22     ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-24 21:35       ` Roberto Peon
2002-09-24 21:35       ` Chris Friesen
2002-09-25 19:02     ` David Schwartz
2002-09-24 23:16   ` Peter Waechtler
2002-09-24 23:23     ` Rik van Riel
2002-09-25 19:05     ` David Schwartz
2002-09-23 16:36 Matthias Urlichs
     [not found] <987738530@toto.iv>
2002-09-24  2:48 ` Peter Chubb
2002-09-24  3:37   ` Mark Mielke

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