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From: Esben Nielsen <simlo@phys.au.dk>
To: Bill Huey <billh@gnuppy.monkey.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	david singleton <dsingleton@mvista.com>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RT Mutex patch and tester [PREEMPT_RT]
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 09:47:39 +0100 (MET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0601130937540.9269-100000@lifa01.phys.au.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060113080734.GA22091@gnuppy.monkey.org>



On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Bill Huey wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 01:54:23PM +0100, Esben Nielsen wrote:
> > turnstiles? What is that?
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/kern/subr_turnstile.c
>
> Please, read. Now tell me or not if that looks familiar ? :)

Yes, it reminds me of Ingo's first approach to pi locking:
Everything is done under a global spin lock. In Ingo's approach it was the
pi_lock. In turnstiles it is sched_lock, which (without looking at other
code in FreeBSD) locks the whole scheduler.

Although making the code a lot simpler, scalability is ofcourse the main
issue here. But apparently FreeBSD does have a global lock protecting the
scheduler anyway.

Otherwise it looks a lot like the rt_mutex.

Esben


>
> Moving closer an implementation is arguable, but it is something that
> should be considered somewhat since folks in both the Solaris (and
> FreeBSD) communities have given a lot more consideration to these issues.
>
> The stack allocated objects are fine for now. Priority inheritance
> chains should never get long with a fine grained kernel, so the use
> of a stack allocated object and migrating pi-ed waiters should not
> be a major real world issue in Linux yet.
>
> Folks should also consider using an adaptive spin in the __grab_lock() (sp?)
> related loops as a possible way of optimizing away the immediate blocks.
> FreeBSD actually checks the owner of a lock aacross another processor
> to see if it's actively running, "current", and will block or wait if
> it's running or not respectively. It's pretty trivial code, so it's
> not a big issue to implement. This is ignoring the CPU local storage
> issues.
>
> bill
>
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  reply	other threads:[~2006-01-13  8:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-01-11 17:25 RT Mutex patch and tester [PREEMPT_RT] Esben Nielsen
2006-01-11 17:51 ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-11 21:45   ` Esben Nielsen
2006-01-12 11:33 ` Bill Huey
2006-01-12 12:54   ` Esben Nielsen
2006-01-13  8:07     ` Bill Huey
2006-01-13  8:47       ` Esben Nielsen [this message]
2006-01-13 10:19         ` Bill Huey
2006-01-15  4:24 ` Bill Huey
2006-01-16  8:35   ` Esben Nielsen
2006-01-16 10:22     ` Bill Huey
2006-01-16 10:53       ` Bill Huey
2006-01-16 11:30         ` Esben Nielsen
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0601181120100.1993-201000@lifa02.phys.au.dk>
2006-01-18 10:38   ` Ingo Molnar
2006-01-18 12:49   ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-18 14:18     ` Esben Nielsen
     [not found]   ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0601230047290.31387-201000@lifa01.phys.au.dk>
2006-01-23  0:38     ` david singleton
2006-01-23  2:04     ` Bill Huey
2006-01-23  9:33       ` Esben Nielsen
2006-01-23 14:23         ` Steven Rostedt
2006-01-23 15:14           ` Esben Nielsen
2006-01-27 15:18             ` Esben Nielsen

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