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From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
To: bill davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cdrecord hangs my computer
Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 09:46:21 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0312080939460.13236@home.osdl.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <br28f2$fen$1@gatekeeper.tmr.com>



On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, bill davidsen wrote:
> |
> | It's bad from a technical standpoint (anybody who names a generic device
> | with a flat namespace is just basically clueless), and it's bad from a
> | usability standpoint. It has _zero_ redeeming qualities.
>
> And the redeeming features of naming disks, CDs, and ide-floppy devices
> hda..hdx in an order depending on the loading order of the device
> drivers?

.. but you can fix that. Several ways. Make up your own names. Make it
have "/dev/the-cd-with-the-blue-faceplate" if you want, and it will all
still work quite intuitively.

And when you switch the hardware around, and the CD-ROM breaks and you
replace it with another one (still with a blue face-plate, just to not
confuse the user unnecessarily, but this time it ends up being on another
bus entirely), the "/dev/the-cd...-faceplate" thing still works with
minimal effort on the admin part.

And it works in _all_ situations.

Sure, you can have all programs use their own random naming scheme and use
.cdrecordrc and edit that instead, but then you have to remember to edit
the .k3drc thing too, and the /etc/fstab, and so on and so on.

Isn't it saner to use a naming scheme that everybody can agree on, and
that is generic enough that it really _does_ work for everybody, and that
allows localised names?

		Linus

  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-08 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-06  8:01 cdrecord hangs my computer Tero Knuutila
2003-12-06  8:12 ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-06  8:54   ` Ethan Weinstein
2003-12-06 11:59     ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-06 13:40     ` Wakko Warner
2003-12-06 14:37       ` John Bradford
2003-12-06 21:57       ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-06 22:02         ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-06 22:32           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-07 11:01             ` Eduard Bloch
2003-12-07 16:18               ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-08 16:21                 ` bill davidsen
2003-12-08 17:46                   ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
2003-12-09 12:38                     ` Bill Davidsen
2003-12-08 17:53                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-12-08 18:53                     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-08 19:40                       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2003-12-09 14:50                         ` Ian Soboroff
2003-12-09 20:42                           ` Mikael Pettersson
2003-12-08 16:24                 ` Martin J. Bligh
2003-12-08 19:22                   ` dialectical deprecation " Bob
2003-12-09 21:19                     ` bill davidsen
2003-12-09 22:31                     ` David Lang
2003-12-09 21:51                       ` Måns Rullgård
2003-12-08  4:36           ` Bob
2003-12-08  4:51             ` Larry McVoy
2003-12-07  0:16         ` Wakko Warner
2003-12-07  3:31           ` William Lee Irwin III
2003-12-07  4:49           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-08 16:13         ` bill davidsen
2003-12-08 17:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-08 19:41             ` bluefaceplate demographics " Bob
2003-12-06 16:42     ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-06 12:39 Tero Knuutila
2003-12-06 18:27 Tero Knuutila
2003-12-06 19:08 Tero Knuutila
2003-12-08  9:31 Douglas Gilbert
2003-12-11 12:56 ` Jens Axboe
2003-12-11 16:15   ` Linus Torvalds
2003-12-15 13:29 Paul Marinceu

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