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From: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
To: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
Cc: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 12/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 01:18:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a43ef10f-aa91-cb4c-a8aa-cd3ce9cfebf2@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <82a391ee-85b1-cdc7-0f9b-d37fd8ba8e47@linux.ibm.com>



On 08/21/2018 07:07 PM, Tony Krowiak wrote:
> On 08/21/2018 11:25 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>> On Mon, 20 Aug 2018 13:41:32 -0400
>> Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 08/20/2018 10:23 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Aug 2018 17:48:09 -0400
>>>> Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
>>>>> From: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Provides the sysfs interfaces for:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Assigning AP control domains to the mediated matrix device
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Unassigning AP control domains from a mediated matrix device
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Displaying the control domains assigned to a mediated matrix
>>>>>      device
>>>>>
>>>>> The IDs of the AP control domains assigned to the mediated matrix
>>>>> device are stored in an AP domain mask (ADM). The bits in the ADM,
>>>>> from most significant to least significant bit, correspond to
>>>>> AP domain numbers 0 to 255. On some systems, the maximum allowable
>>>>> domain number may be less than 255 - depending upon the host's
>>>>> AP configuration - and assignment may be rejected if the input
>>>>> domain ID exceeds the limit.
>>>> Please remind me of the relationship between control domains and usage
>>>> domains... IIRC, usage domains allow both requests and configuration,
>>>> while control domains allow only configuration, and are by convention a
>>>> superset of usage domains.
>>> A usage domain is a domain to which an AP command-request message can be
>>> submitted for processing. A control domain is a domain that can
>>> be changed by an AP command request message submitted to a usage domain.
>>> AP command request messages to configure a domain will contain the domain
>>> number of the domain to be modified. The AP firmware will check the
>>> control domain mask (ADM) and will allow the request to proceed only if
>>> the corresponding bit in the ADM is set.
>> Thanks to you and Halil for the explanation.
>>
>>>> Is there a hard requirement somewhere in there, or can the admin
>>>> cheerfully use different masks for usage domains and control domains
>>>> without the SIE choking on it?
>>> There is no hard requirement that control domains must be a superset of
>>> the usage domains, it is merely an architectural convention. AFAIK,
>>> SIE doesn't enforce this and will not break if the convention is not
>>> enforced externally. Having said that, you should note that the AQM
>>> and ADM masks configured for the mediated matrix device will be logically
>>> OR'd together to create the ADM stored in the CRYCB referenced from the
>>> guest's SIE state description. In other words, we are enforcing the
>>> convention in our software.
>> Hm, that's interesting, as Halil argued that we should not enforce it
>> in the kernel. Might be somewhat surprising as well. If that is really
>> the way to do it, this needs to be documented clearly.
> 
> This convention has been enforced by the kernel since v1. This is also
> enforced by both the LPAR as well as in z/VM. The following is from the
> PR/SM Planning Guide:
> 
> Control Domain
> A logical partition's control domains are those cryptographic domains for which remote secure
> administration functions can be established and administered from this logical partition. This
> logical partition’s control domains must include its usage domains. For each index selected in the
> usage domain index list, you must select the same index in the control domain index list
> 

IMHO this quote is quite a half-full half-empty cup one:
* it mandates the set of usage domains is a subset of the set
of the control domains, but
* it speaks of independent controls, namely about the 'usage domain index'
and the 'control domain index list' and makes the enforcement of the rule
a job of the administrator (instead of codifying it in the controls).

> 
> Consequently, I'm going to opt for ensuring this is clearly documented. Based on the fact you've
> requested clarification of many points described in this section of the doc, I
> think I'll try putting my meager skills as a wordsmith to work to hopefully clarify things.
> I'll run it by you when I complete that task to see if I've succeeded:)

I don't think just a doc update will do. Let me explain why.

What describe as "... note that the AQM and ADM masks configured for the
mediated matrix device will be logically OR'd together to create the ADM
stored in the CRYCB referenced from the guest's SIE state description."
is a gotcha at best. The member of struct ap_matrix and the member of the
respective apcb in the crycb are both called 'adm', but ap_matrix.adm is
not an ADM as we know it from the architecture, but rather ~ AQM & ADM.

I feel pretty strongly about this one. If we want to keep the enforcement
in the kernel, I guess, the assign_domain should set the bit corresponding
bit not only in ap_matrix.aqm but also in ap_matrix.adm. When the
ap_matrix is committed into the crycb no further manipulating the masks
should take place.

I don't feel strongly about whether to enforce this convention about AQM
and ADM in the kernel or not. Frankly, I don't know what is behind the
rule. Since I can't tell if any problems are to be expected if this
convention is violated, I would feel more comfortable if the rule was
accommodated higher in the management stack.

Regards,
Halil

> 
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-21 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-13 21:47 [PATCH v9 00/22] guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 01/22] s390/zcrypt: Add ZAPQ inline function Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 02/22] s390/zcrypt: Review inline assembler constraints Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 03/22] s390/zcrypt: Show load of cards and queues in sysfs Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 04/22] s390/zcrypt: Integrate ap_asm.h into include/asm/ap.h Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14  8:43   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 13:18     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17 13:27       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:09         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 05/22] KVM: s390: vsie: simulate VCPU SIE entry/exit Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14  8:50   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-14 12:46     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 06/22] KVM: s390: introduce and use KVM_REQ_VSIE_RESTART Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 07/22] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 16:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-20 20:33     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 20:41       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-21 13:29         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 08/22] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 10:42   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-14 23:30     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 09/22] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 11:19   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 16:51     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-16 16:24     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17  8:43       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:02         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-06  8:49   ` Pierre Morel
2018-09-10 13:38     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-10 21:58       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 10/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15  9:52   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 16:59     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-16  7:30       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 13:23         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 11/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 12:05   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 17:00     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 12/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:23   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-20 16:43     ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-20 17:41     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 15:25       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 17:07         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 23:18           ` Halil Pasic [this message]
2018-08-22  9:42             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:43               ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 11:03               ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:11                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-08-22 15:34                   ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:48                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-08-22 15:53                       ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 17:11                       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 19:16                         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  9:26                           ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 10:41                             ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 10:25                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-23 10:43                             ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 11:31                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-23 11:44                                 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 14:16                             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-27  8:33                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-27 13:47                                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-27 13:51                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-27 15:39                                     ` Halil Pasic
2018-09-10 13:27                                     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-22 15:18               ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-22 14:31             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 13/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:08   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-09-12 17:01     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-13  9:12       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 14/22] KVM: s390: interfaces to clear CRYCB masks Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 13:10   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 17:55     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 15/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement mediated device open callback Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:08   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 18:21     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 16/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 17/22] s390: vfio-ap: zeroize the AP queues Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 20:36     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17  9:34       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 18/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_RESET ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:38   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 21:05     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17  9:38       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:03         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 19/22] KVM: s390: Clear Crypto Control Block when using vSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 20/22] KVM: s390: Handling of Cypto control block in VSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21  8:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 21/22] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:26   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21  8:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 11:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 11:24     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 20:16       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  7:44         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 10:00           ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 10:28             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 11:10               ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 11:12                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 12:47                   ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 13:22                     ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 13:38                       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 14:59                         ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 17:35                           ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23 17:40                             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-24 10:28                               ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 14:33     ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 15:50         ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 16:57           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 21:05             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  7:42               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 20:54     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  7:48       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23  8:24         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-09-12 17:42           ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-17  7:57             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23  8:26         ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 22/22] s390: doc: detailed specifications " Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 16:03   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-20 20:16     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 16:13       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 19:21         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 18:54       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22  7:38         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21  9:00     ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-21 15:53       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22  7:04         ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-22 10:09           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:13         ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-22 10:45           ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 10:19 ` [PATCH v9 00/22] guest dedicated crypto adapters Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:58   ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 18:59   ` Tony Krowiak

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