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From: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 12/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 11:18:52 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c2ec9629-bd52-5855-a62f-9d3e4289ecd3@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180822114250.59a250aa.cohuck@redhat.com>

On 08/22/2018 05:42 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Aug 2018 01:18:20 +0200
> Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> On 08/21/2018 07:07 PM, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>> This convention has been enforced by the kernel since v1. This is also
>>> enforced by both the LPAR as well as in z/VM. The following is from the
>>> PR/SM Planning Guide:
>>>
>>> Control Domain
>>> A logical partition's control domains are those cryptographic domains for which remote secure
>>> administration functions can be established and administered from this logical partition. This
>>> logical partition’s control domains must include its usage domains. For each index selected in the
>>> usage domain index list, you must select the same index in the control domain index list
>>>    
> That's interesting.
>
>> IMHO this quote is quite a half-full half-empty cup one:
>> * it mandates the set of usage domains is a subset of the set
>> of the control domains, but
>> * it speaks of independent controls, namely about the 'usage domain index'
>> and the 'control domain index list' and makes the enforcement of the rule
>> a job of the administrator (instead of codifying it in the controls).
> I'm wondering if a configuration with a usage domain that is not also a
> control domain is rejected outright? Anybody tried that? :)

That's been tried and is not rejected.

>
>>> Consequently, I'm going to opt for ensuring this is clearly documented. Based on the fact you've
>>> requested clarification of many points described in this section of the doc, I
>>> think I'll try putting my meager skills as a wordsmith to work to hopefully clarify things.
>>> I'll run it by you when I complete that task to see if I've succeeded:)
>> I don't think just a doc update will do. Let me explain why.
>>
>> What describe as "... note that the AQM and ADM masks configured for the
>> mediated matrix device will be logically OR'd together to create the ADM
>> stored in the CRYCB referenced from the guest's SIE state description."
>> is a gotcha at best. The member of struct ap_matrix and the member of the
>> respective apcb in the crycb are both called 'adm', but ap_matrix.adm is
>> not an ADM as we know it from the architecture, but rather ~ AQM & ADM.
>>
>> I feel pretty strongly about this one. If we want to keep the enforcement
>> in the kernel, I guess, the assign_domain should set the bit corresponding
>> bit not only in ap_matrix.aqm but also in ap_matrix.adm. When the
>> ap_matrix is committed into the crycb no further manipulating the masks
>> should take place.
> Would you be fine if the control domain interface stated that it is
> used to configure _additional_ control domains and the usage domain
> interface stated that it is used to define usage and implicitly also
> control domains? (And make the usage domain interface also set the
> equivalent bit in the control domain mask.)

I think that is the better way to go and is something Halil recommended
in another post.

>
>> I don't feel strongly about whether to enforce this convention about AQM
>> and ADM in the kernel or not. Frankly, I don't know what is behind the
>> rule. Since I can't tell if any problems are to be expected if this
>> convention is violated, I would feel more comfortable if the rule was
>> accommodated higher in the management stack.
> I guess it depends:
>
> - If this is a case of: "Don't configure control domains that are not
>    also usage domains. You are likely to go through
>    {code,firmware,hardware} paths that are generally not used.",
>    configure it in the kernel.
> - If this rather is "Everybody is doing that, it's a general
>    convention.", configure it higher up in the stack (libvirt?)

I have come to the conclusion that the convention should be enforced
in the sysfs interfaces of the mediated matrix device as follows:

1. All domains assigned as usage domains will also be implicitly
    assigned as control domains.

2. Control domains that are not usage domains may be assigned via
    the assign_control_domain interface.

My reason is to maintain consistency across platforms, because:

1. The architecture doc states that control domains are a superset
    of the usage domains.

2. The HMC interface for assigning domains to the LPAR enforces
    the convention.

3. The PR/SM documentation states the same.



>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-08-22 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-13 21:47 [PATCH v9 00/22] guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 01/22] s390/zcrypt: Add ZAPQ inline function Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:47 ` [PATCH v9 02/22] s390/zcrypt: Review inline assembler constraints Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 03/22] s390/zcrypt: Show load of cards and queues in sysfs Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 04/22] s390/zcrypt: Integrate ap_asm.h into include/asm/ap.h Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14  8:43   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 13:18     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17 13:27       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:09         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 05/22] KVM: s390: vsie: simulate VCPU SIE entry/exit Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14  8:50   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-14 12:46     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 06/22] KVM: s390: introduce and use KVM_REQ_VSIE_RESTART Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 07/22] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 16:41   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-20 20:33     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 20:41       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-21 13:29         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 08/22] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 10:42   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-14 23:30     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 09/22] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-08-14 11:19   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 16:51     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-16 16:24     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17  8:43       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:02         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-06  8:49   ` Pierre Morel
2018-09-10 13:38     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-10 21:58       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 10/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15  9:52   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 16:59     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-16  7:30       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 13:23         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 11/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 12:05   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 17:00     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 12/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:23   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-20 16:43     ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-20 17:41     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 15:25       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 17:07         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 23:18           ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22  9:42             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:43               ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 11:03               ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:11                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-08-22 15:34                   ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:48                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-08-22 15:53                       ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 17:11                       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 19:16                         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  9:26                           ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 10:41                             ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 10:25                           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-23 10:43                             ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 11:31                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-23 11:44                                 ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 14:16                             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-27  8:33                               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-27 13:47                                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-27 13:51                                   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-27 15:39                                     ` Halil Pasic
2018-09-10 13:27                                     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-22 15:18               ` Tony Krowiak [this message]
2018-08-22 14:31             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 13/22] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:08   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-09-12 17:01     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-13  9:12       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 14/22] KVM: s390: interfaces to clear CRYCB masks Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 13:10   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 17:55     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 15/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement mediated device open callback Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:08   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 18:21     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 16/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 17/22] s390: vfio-ap: zeroize the AP queues Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:24   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 20:36     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17  9:34       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 18/22] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_RESET ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-08-15 16:38   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-15 21:05     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-17  9:38       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-17 19:03         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 19/22] KVM: s390: Clear Crypto Control Block when using vSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 20/22] KVM: s390: Handling of Cypto control block in VSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21  8:30   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 21/22] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 14:26   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21  8:03   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 11:19   ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 11:24     ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 20:16       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  7:44         ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 10:00           ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 10:28             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 11:10               ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 11:12                 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 12:47                   ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 13:22                     ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-23 13:38                       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23 14:59                         ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-23 17:35                           ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23 17:40                             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-24 10:28                               ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 14:33     ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 15:04       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 15:50         ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 16:57           ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 21:05             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  7:42               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-22 20:54     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-23  7:48       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23  8:24         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-09-12 17:42           ` Tony Krowiak
2018-09-17  7:57             ` David Hildenbrand
2018-08-23  8:26         ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-13 21:48 ` [PATCH v9 22/22] s390: doc: detailed specifications " Tony Krowiak
2018-08-20 16:03   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-20 20:16     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 16:13       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21 19:21         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-08-21 18:54       ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22  7:38         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-21  9:00     ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-21 15:53       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22  7:04         ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-22 10:09           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:13         ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-08-22 10:45           ` Halil Pasic
2018-08-22 10:19 ` [PATCH v9 00/22] guest dedicated crypto adapters Cornelia Huck
2018-08-22 10:58   ` Pierre Morel
2018-08-22 18:59   ` Tony Krowiak

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