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From: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>
Cc: syzbot <syzbot+83e7f982ca045ab4405c@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	andrii@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [syzbot] [bpf?] [trace?] possible deadlock in force_sig_info_to_task
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2024 10:00:30 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a93a0b0f-4607-46d6-937d-0ddf3544bb2d@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjma_sSghVTgDCQxHHd=e2Lqi45PLh78oJ4WeBj8erV9Q@mail.gmail.com>

On 2024/04/29 9:50, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 at 16:23, Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com> wrote:
>>
>> So is game like copying from/putting to user with runqueue locked
>> at the first place.
> 
> No, that should be perfectly fine. In fact, it's even normal. It would
> happen any time you have any kind of tracing thing, where looking up
> the user mode frame involves doing user accesses with page faults
> disabled.
> 
> The runqueue lock is irrelevant. As mentioned, it's only a symptom of
> something else going wrong.
> 
> Now, judging by the syz reproducer, the trigger for this all is almost
> certainly that
> 
>    bpf$BPF_RAW_TRACEPOINT_OPEN(0x11,
> &(0x7f00000000c0)={&(0x7f0000000080)='sched_switch\x00', r0}, 0x10)
> 
> and that probably causes the instability. But the immediate problem is
> not the user space access, it's that something goes horribly wrong
> *around* it.

I can't recall title of the commit, but I feel that things went very wrong
after a commit that allows running tracing function upon lock contention
(run code when e.g. a spinlock could not be taken) was introduced.
That commit is forming random locking dependency, resulting in flood of
lockdep warnings.

> 
>> Plus as per another syzbot report [1], bpf could make trouble with
>> workqueue pool locked.
> 
> That seems to be entirely different. There's no unexplained page fault
> in that case, that seems to be purely a "take lock in the wrong order"
> 
>                 Linus


  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-29  1:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-25  9:05 [syzbot] [bpf?] [trace?] possible deadlock in force_sig_info_to_task syzbot
2024-04-25 17:54 ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-27 20:00 ` syzbot
2024-04-27 23:13   ` Hillf Danton
2024-04-28 20:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-28 20:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-28 23:23       ` Hillf Danton
2024-04-29  0:50         ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29  1:00           ` Tetsuo Handa [this message]
2024-04-29  1:33           ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29  8:00             ` [PATCH] x86/mm: Remove broken vsyscall emulation code from the page fault code Ingo Molnar
2024-04-29 13:51               ` Jiri Olsa
2024-04-29 23:30                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-04-29 15:51               ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29 18:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29 19:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29 23:29                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2024-04-30  0:05                       ` Linus Torvalds
2024-04-30  6:10                     ` Ingo Molnar
2024-05-01  7:43                       ` Ingo Molnar
2024-04-30 14:53               ` kernel test robot
2024-04-29 10:39             ` [syzbot] [bpf?] [trace?] possible deadlock in force_sig_info_to_task Hillf Danton
2024-04-29 11:35               ` syzbot
2024-04-30  6:16             ` [tip: x86/urgent] x86/mm: Remove broken vsyscall emulation code from the page fault code tip-bot2 for Linus Torvalds
2024-05-01  7:50             ` tip-bot2 for Linus Torvalds
2024-04-29 14:17           ` [syzbot] [bpf?] [trace?] possible deadlock in force_sig_info_to_task Tetsuo Handa

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