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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:50:01 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ea4639ba-d991-c95c-8cb1-48588e5b42c0@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200117135435.GU20978@mellanox.com>


On 2020/1/17 下午9:54, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 11:03:12AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>> On 2020/1/16 下午11:22, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 08:42:29PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
>>>> vDPA device is a device that uses a datapath which complies with the
>>>> virtio specifications with vendor specific control path. vDPA devices
>>>> can be both physically located on the hardware or emulated by
>>>> software. vDPA hardware devices are usually implemented through PCIE
>>>> with the following types:
>>>>
>>>> - PF (Physical Function) - A single Physical Function
>>>> - VF (Virtual Function) - Device that supports single root I/O
>>>>     virtualization (SR-IOV). Its Virtual Function (VF) represents a
>>>>     virtualized instance of the device that can be assigned to different
>>>>     partitions
>>>> - VDEV (Virtual Device) - With technologies such as Intel Scalable
>>>>     IOV, a virtual device composed by host OS utilizing one or more
>>>>     ADIs.
>>>> - SF (Sub function) - Vendor specific interface to slice the Physical
>>>>     Function to multiple sub functions that can be assigned to different
>>>>     partitions as virtual devices.
>>> I really hope we don't end up with two different ways to spell this
>>> same thing.
>> I think you meant ADI vs SF. It looks to me that ADI is limited to the scope
>> of scalable IOV but SF not.
> I think if one looks carefully you'd find that SF and ADI are using
> very similar techiniques. For instance we'd also like to use the code
> reorg of the MSIX vector setup with SFs that Intel is calling IMS.
>
> Really SIOV is simply a bundle of pre-existing stuff under a tidy
> name, whatever code skeleton we come up with for SFs should be re-used
> for ADI.


Ok, but do you prefer to mention ADI only for the next version?


>
>>> Shouldn't there be a device/driver matching process of some kind?
>>
>> The question is what do we want do match here.
>>
>> 1) "virtio" vs "vhost", I implemented matching method for this in mdev
>> series, but it looks unnecessary for vDPA device driver to know about this.
>> Anyway we can use sysfs driver bind/unbind to switch drivers
>> 2) virtio device id and vendor id. I'm not sure we need this consider the
>> two drivers so far (virtio/vhost) are all bus drivers.
> As we seem to be contemplating some dynamic creation of vdpa devices I
> think upon creation time it should be specified what mode they should
> run it and then all driver binding and autoloading should happen
> automatically. Telling the user to bind/unbind is a very poor
> experience.
>
> Jason


Ok, I will add the type (virtio vs vhost) and driver matching method back.

Thanks


  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-20  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-16 12:42 [PATCH 0/5] vDPA support Jason Wang
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 1/5] vhost: factor out IOTLB Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:14   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-17  9:34     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-18  0:01   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-18  0:40   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 2/5] vringh: IOTLB support Jason Wang
2020-01-17 21:54   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-17 22:33   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 3/5] vDPA: introduce vDPA bus Jason Wang
2020-01-16 15:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-17  3:03     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 13:54       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20  7:50         ` Jason Wang [this message]
2020-01-20 12:17         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 17:50           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20 21:56             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21 14:12               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21 14:15                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21 14:16                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21  8:40       ` Tian, Kevin
2020-01-21  9:41         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:16   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-17  9:34     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 12:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-17 13:52     ` Jason Wang
     [not found]       ` <CAJPjb1+fG9L3=iKbV4Vn13VwaeDZZdcfBPvarogF_Nzhk+FnKg@mail.gmail.com>
2020-01-19  9:07         ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-19  9:59           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20  8:44             ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20 12:09               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  3:32                 ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20  8:43           ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20 17:49             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20 20:51               ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-20 21:25                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 21:47                   ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-20 21:59                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  6:01                       ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-21  7:57                         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21 14:07                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21 14:16                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-20 21:48               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  4:00               ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21  5:47                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  8:00                   ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21  8:15                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-21  8:35                       ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21 11:09                         ` Shahaf Shuler
2020-01-22  6:36                           ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21 14:05                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-21 14:17                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2020-01-22  6:18                           ` Jason Wang
2020-01-20  8:19         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 4/5] virtio: introduce a vDPA based transport Jason Wang
2020-01-16 15:38   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-17  9:32     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 14:00       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20  7:52         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:10   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-16 12:42 ` [PATCH 5/5] vdpasim: vDPA device simulator Jason Wang
2020-01-16 15:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-17  9:32     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17 14:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-01-20  8:01         ` Jason Wang
2020-02-04  4:19         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-17  4:12   ` Randy Dunlap
2020-01-17  9:35     ` Jason Wang
2020-01-18 18:18   ` kbuild test robot
2020-01-28  3:32   ` Dan Carpenter
2020-02-04  4:07     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-04  8:21   ` Zhu Lingshan
2020-02-04  8:28     ` Jason Wang
2020-02-04 12:52       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-02-05  3:14         ` Jason Wang
2020-01-21  8:44 ` [PATCH 0/5] vDPA support Tian, Kevin
2020-01-21  9:39   ` Jason Wang

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