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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>,
	Tolga Ceylan <tolga.ceylan@gmail.com>,
	Aaron Conole <aconole@bytheb.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Linux Kernel Network Developers <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] net: Add SO_REUSEPORT_LISTEN_OFF socket option as drain mode
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2015 20:44:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151215194410.GB3187@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1450203712.8474.46.camel@edumazet-glaptop2.roam.corp.google.com>

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:21:52AM -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-12-15 at 18:43 +0100, Willy Tarreau wrote:
> 
> > Ah ? but what does it bring in this case ? I'm not seeing it used
> > anywhere on a listening socket. The code took care of not breaking
> > them though (ie they still accept if no other socket shows up with
> > a higher score). Otherwise we'll have to switch to Tolga's patch,
> > unless we find another socket option that can safely be combined
> > and which makes sense (I often find it better not to make userland
> > depend on new updates of includes when possible).
> 
> Socket options set on the listener before the accept() are inherited.

I completely forgot about this use case, stupid me!

> Applications wanting SO_LINGER special settings on all their sockets can
> use a single system call right before listen().
> 
> Some servers having to deal with TIME_WAIT proliferation very often use
> SO_LINGER with timeout 0

Yes definitely, it's just that I was focused on the listening socket not
taking into account the fact that it would be inherited to the (rare) few
sockets that are accepted from the queue afterwards. And indeed it's a
perfectly legitimate usage to save a syscall per incoming connection.

Thus do you think it's worth adding a new option as Tolga proposed ?

Another solution I considered (but found a bit dirty) was to make use of
the unimplemented shutdown(WR) for this. While it's easy to do, I don't
like it simply because it looks like a hack and not logical at all from
the users perspective.

Thanks,
Willy

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-15 19:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-27  0:30 [PATCH 1/1] net: Add SO_REUSEPORT_LISTEN_OFF socket option as drain mode Tolga Ceylan
2015-09-27  1:04 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-09-27  1:37   ` Tolga Ceylan
2015-09-27  1:44 ` Aaron Conole
2015-09-27  2:02   ` Tolga Ceylan
2015-09-27  2:24     ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-11  5:41       ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-11  6:19         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-11 17:05           ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-11 17:23             ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-11 18:23               ` Tom Herbert
2015-11-11 18:43                 ` Eric Dumazet
2015-11-12  1:09                   ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-15 16:14                     ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-15 17:10                       ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-15 17:43                         ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-15 18:21                           ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-15 19:44                             ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2015-12-15 21:21                               ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-16  7:38                                 ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-16 16:15                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-18 16:33                                     ` Josh Snyder
2015-12-18 18:58                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-19  2:38                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2015-12-19  7:00                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2015-12-21 20:38                                             ` Tom Herbert
2015-12-21 20:41                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24  5:10                                                 ` Tolga Ceylan
2016-03-24  6:12                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 14:13                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 14:22                                                       ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 14:45                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 15:30                                                           ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 16:33                                                             ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 16:50                                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 17:01                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 17:26                                                                   ` Tom Herbert
2016-03-24 17:55                                                                     ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-03-24 18:20                                                                       ` Tolga Ceylan
2016-03-24 18:24                                                                         ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 18:37                                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 22:40                                                                       ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-24 22:49                                                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-24 23:40                                                                           ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-24 23:54                                                                             ` Tom Herbert
2016-03-25  0:01                                                                               ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-25  5:28                                                                               ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-25  6:49                                                                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25  8:53                                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-25 11:21                                                                                     ` Yann Ylavic
2016-03-25 13:17                                                                                       ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25  0:25                                                                           ` David Miller
2016-03-25  0:24                                                                         ` David Miller
2016-03-24 18:00                                                                   ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 18:21                                                                     ` Willy Tarreau
2016-03-24 18:32                                                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25 15:29 Craig Gallek
2016-03-25 16:21 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-03-25 16:31   ` Craig Gallek
2016-03-25 17:00     ` Eric Dumazet
2016-03-25 18:31       ` Willem de Bruijn

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