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From: "Marek Behún" <kabel@kernel.org>
To: Holger Brunck <holger.brunck@hitachienergy.com>
Cc: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Subject: Re: [v3 2/2] dsa: mv88e6xxx: make serdes SGMII/Fiber output amplitude configurable
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:00:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211208180057.7fb10a17@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211208164932.6ojxt64j3v34477k@skbuf>

On Wed, 8 Dec 2021 18:49:32 +0200
Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 06:41:31PM +0200, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 05:21:04PM +0100, Marek Behún wrote:  
> > > Hello Vladimir,  
> > > > > > but the mv88e6xxx driver also drives switches that allow changing serdes
> > > > > > modes. There does not need be dedicated TX amplitude register for each serdes
> > > > > > mode, the point is that we may want to declare different amplitudes for
> > > > > > different modes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So the question is: if we go with your binding proposal for the whole mv88e6xxx
> > > > > > driver, and in the future someone will want to declare different amplitudes for
> > > > > > different modes on another model, would he need to deprecate your binding or
> > > > > > would it be easy to extend?
> > > > > >  
> > > > >
> > > > > ok I see. So if I follow your proposal in my case it would be something like:
> > > > > serdes-sgmii-tx-amplitude-millivolt to start with ?
> > > > >
> > > > > I can do that. Andrew what do you think?  
> > > >
> > > > Or maybe two properties:
> > > >   serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt = <700 1000 1100>;
> > > >   serdes-tx-amplitude-modes = "sgmii", "2500base-x", "10gbase-r";
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > > If
> > > >   serdes-tx-amplitude-modes
> > > > is omitted, then
> > > >   serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt
> > > > should only contain one value, and this is used for all serdes modes.
> > > >
> > > > This would be compatible with your change. You only need to define the
> > > > bidning for now, your code can stay the same - you don't need to add
> > > > support for multiple values or for the second property now, it can be
> > > > done later when needed. But the binding should be defined to support
> > > > those different modes.  
> > >
> > > Vladimir, can you send your thoughts about this proposal? We are trying
> > > to propose binding for defining serdes TX amplitude.  
> > 
> > I don't have any specific concern here. It sounds reasonable for
> > different data rates to require different transmitter configurations.
> > Having separate "serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt" and "serdes-tx-amplitude-modes"
> > properties sounds okay, although I think a prefix with "-names" at the
> > end is more canonical ("pinctrl-names", "clock-names", "reg-names" etc),
> > so maybe "serdes-tx-amplitude-millivolt-names"?
> > Maybe we could name the first element "default", and just the others
> > would be named after a phy-mode. This way, if a specific TX amplitude is
> > found in the device tree for the currently operating PHY mode, it can be
> > used, otherwise the default (first) amplitude can be used.  
> 
> Also, maybe drop the "serdes-" prefix? The property will sit under a
> SERDES lane node, so it would be a bit redundant?

Hmm. Holger's proposal adds the property into the port node, not SerDes
lane node. mv88e6xxx does not define bindings for SerDes lane nodes
(yet).

  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-08 17:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-07 19:07 [v3 1/2] Docs/devicetree: add serdes.yaml Holger Brunck
2021-12-07 19:07 ` [v3 2/2] dsa: mv88e6xxx: make serdes SGMII/Fiber output amplitude configurable Holger Brunck
2021-12-07 19:27   ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 12:29     ` Holger Brunck
2021-12-08 15:28       ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 15:49         ` Holger Brunck
2021-12-08 16:17           ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 16:21             ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 16:41               ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 16:49                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 17:00                   ` Marek Behún [this message]
2021-12-08 17:19                     ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 17:36                       ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 17:55                         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-08 18:15                           ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 16:51                 ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 16:59                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 17:10                     ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 17:12                       ` Marek Behún
2021-12-08 17:20                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2021-12-08 17:00             ` Andrew Lunn
2021-12-08 17:16               ` Marek Behún
2021-12-15 10:27                 ` Holger Brunck
2021-12-15 20:53                   ` Marek Behún
2022-01-20  7:52                     ` Holger Brunck
2022-01-20 17:57                       ` Marek Behún

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