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From: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>
To: Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
Cc: "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Simon Horman <simon.horman@corigine.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH net-next v5 2/3] sock: Always take memcg pressure into consideration
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2023 11:44:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f67c3ca-5e73-d7ac-f32a-42a21d3ea576@bytedance.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF=yD-LFQRreWq1RMkvLw9Nj3NQpJwbDSCfECUhh-aVchR-jsg@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/4/23 6:36 PM, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 2, 2023 at 10:42 PM Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 04:11:34PM +0800, Abel Wu wrote:
>>> The sk_under_memory_pressure() is called to check whether there is
>>> memory pressure related to this socket. But now it ignores the net-
>>> memcg's pressure if the proto of the socket doesn't care about the
>>> global pressure, which may put burden on its memcg compaction or
>>> reclaim path (also remember that socket memory is un-reclaimable).
>>>
>>> So always check the memcg's vm status to alleviate memstalls when
>>> it's in pressure.
>>>
>>
>> This is interesting. UDP is the only protocol which supports memory
>> accounting (i.e. udp_memory_allocated) but it does not define
>> memory_pressure. In addition, it does have sysctl_udp_mem. So
>> effectively UDP supports a hard limit and ignores memcg pressure at the
>> moment. This patch will change its behavior to consider memcg pressure
>> as well. I don't have any objection but let's get opinion of UDP
>> maintainer.
> 
> Others have more experience with memory pressure on UDP, for the
> record. Paolo worked on UDP memory pressure in
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/cover.1579281705.git.pabeni@redhat.com/
> 
> It does seem odd to me to modify sk_under_memory_pressure only. See
> for instance its use in __sk_mem_raise_allocated:
> 
>          if (sk_has_memory_pressure(sk)) {
>                  u64 alloc;
> 
>                  if (!sk_under_memory_pressure(sk))
>                          return 1;
> 
> This is not even reached as sk_has_memory_pressure is false for UDP.

I intended to make __sk_mem_raise_allocated() be aware of net-memcg
pressure instead of just this bit [1][2].

[1] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230523094652.49411-5-wuyun.abel@bytedance.com/
[2] 
https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230523094652.49411-6-wuyun.abel@bytedance.com/

And TBH I am wondering why considering memcg's pressure here, as the
main part in this if statement is to allow the sockets that are below
average memory usage to raise from a *global* memory view, which seems
nothing to do with memcg.

> So this commit only affects the only other protocol-independent
> caller, __sk_mem_reduce_allocated, to possibly call
> sk_leave_memory_pressure if now under the global limit.
> 
> What is the expected behavioral change in practice of this commit?

Be more conservative on sockmem alloc if under memcg pressure, to
avoid worse memstall/latency.

> 
> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Abel Wu <wuyun.abel@bytedance.com>
>>> ---
>>>   include/net/sock.h | 6 ++----
>>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/net/sock.h b/include/net/sock.h
>>> index 3f63253ee092..ad1895ffbc4a 100644
>>> --- a/include/net/sock.h
>>> +++ b/include/net/sock.h
>>> @@ -1411,13 +1411,11 @@ static inline bool sk_has_memory_pressure(const struct sock *sk)
>>>
>>>   static inline bool sk_under_memory_pressure(const struct sock *sk)
>>>   {
>>> -     if (!sk->sk_prot->memory_pressure)
>>> -             return false;
>>> -
>>>        if (mem_cgroup_under_socket_pressure(sk->sk_memcg))
>>>                return true;
>>>
>>> -     return !!*sk->sk_prot->memory_pressure;
>>> +     return sk->sk_prot->memory_pressure &&
>>> +             *sk->sk_prot->memory_pressure;
>>>   }
>>>
>>>   static inline long
>>> --
>>> 2.37.3
>>>

  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-05  3:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-02  8:11 [PATCH net-next v5 0/3] sock: Improve condition on sockmem pressure Abel Wu
2023-06-02  8:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 1/3] net-memcg: Fold dependency into memcg pressure cond Abel Wu
2023-06-02 20:25   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-06-05 11:52     ` Abel Wu
2023-06-02  8:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 2/3] sock: Always take memcg pressure into consideration Abel Wu
2023-06-02 20:41   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-06-04 10:36     ` Willem de Bruijn
2023-06-05  3:44       ` Abel Wu [this message]
2023-06-05  8:27         ` Paolo Abeni
2023-06-05  9:57           ` Abel Wu
2023-06-02  8:11 ` [PATCH net-next v5 3/3] sock: Fix misuse of sk_under_memory_pressure() Abel Wu
2023-06-02 20:53   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-06-05  8:34     ` Abel Wu
2023-06-06  8:39   ` kernel test robot

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