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From: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>
To: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@mellanox.com>
Cc: Idan Burstein <idanb@mellanox.com>,
	Saeed Mahameed <saeedm@mellanox.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@mellanox.com>,
	Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
	Tal Gilboa <talgi@mellanox.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	Yamin Friedman <yaminf@mellanox.com>,
	Max Gurtovoy <maxg@mellanox.com>
Subject: Re: [for-next V2 10/10] RDMA/core: Provide RDMA DIM support for ULPs
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2019 11:56:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8d525d64-6da1-48c3-952d-8c6b0d541859@grimberg.me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190702064107.GS4727@mtr-leonro.mtl.com>


> Hi Sagi,
> 
> I'm not sharing your worries about bad out-of-the-box experience for a
> number of reasons.
> 
> First of all, this code is part of upstream kernel and will take time
> till users actually start to use it as is and not as part of some distro
> backports or MOFED packages.

True, but I am still saying that this feature is damaging sync IO which
represents the majority of the users. It might not be an extreme impact
but it is still a degradation (from a very limited testing I did this
morning I'm seeing a consistent 5%-10% latency increase for low QD
workloads which is consistent with what Yamin reported AFAIR).

But having said that, the call is for you guys to make as this is a
Mellanox device. I absolutely think that this is useful (as I said
before), I just don't think its necessarily a good idea to opt it by
default given that only a limited set of users would take full advantage
of it while the rest would see a negative impact (even if its 10%).

I don't have  a hard objection here, just wanted to give you my
opinion on this because mlx5 is an important driver for rdma
users.

> Second, Yamin did extensive testing and worked very close with Or G.
> and I have very high confident in the results of their team work.

Has anyone tested other RDMA ulps? NFS/RDMA or SRP/iSER?

Would be interesting to understand how other subsystems with different
characteristics behave with this.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-03 18:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-25 20:57 [pull request][for-next V2 0/7] Generic DIM lib for netdev and RDMA Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 01/10] linux/dim: Move logic to dim.h Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 21:53   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 02/10] linux/dim: Remove "net" prefix from internal DIM members Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 21:53   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 03/10] linux/dim: Rename externally exposed macros Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 21:54   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 04/10] linux/dim: Rename net_dim_sample() to net_dim_update_sample() Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 21:55   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 05/10] linux/dim: Rename externally used net_dim members Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 21:57   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-26  6:38     ` Tal Gilboa
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 06/10] linux/dim: Move implementation to .c files Saeed Mahameed
2019-07-02 16:15   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 07/10] linux/dim: Add completions count to dim_sample Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 08/10] linux/dim: Implement rdma_dim Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 22:02   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-26 11:57     ` Or Gerlitz
2019-06-27  5:25     ` Yamin Friedman
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 09/10] RDMA/nldev: Added configuration of RDMA dynamic interrupt moderation to netlink Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 21:15   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-27  5:29     ` Yamin Friedman
2019-06-25 20:57 ` [for-next V2 10/10] RDMA/core: Provide RDMA DIM support for ULPs Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-25 21:14   ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-06-26  7:56     ` Idan Burstein
2019-07-02  5:36       ` Sagi Grimberg
2019-07-02  6:41         ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-07-03 18:56           ` Sagi Grimberg [this message]
2019-07-04  7:51             ` Leon Romanovsky
2019-07-04 12:30         ` Idan Burstein
2019-06-27  5:28     ` Yamin Friedman
2019-06-25 21:07 ` [pull request][for-next V2 0/7] Generic DIM lib for netdev and RDMA Saeed Mahameed
2019-06-27 19:43 ` David Miller

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