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From: Amery Hung <ameryhung@gmail.com>
To: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, yangpeihao@sjtu.edu.cn, toke@redhat.com,
	 jhs@mojatatu.com, jiri@resnulli.us, sdf@google.com,
	xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,  yepeilin.cs@gmail.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org,  Kui-Feng Lee <thinker.li@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v7 1/8] net_sched: Introduce eBPF based Qdisc
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:23:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAMB2axOdeE5dPeFGvgM5QVd9a47srtvDFZd1VUYjSarNJC=T_w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8c00bd63-2d00-401e-af6d-1b6aebac4701@linux.dev>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 10:39 PM Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev> wrote:
> >> We can see how those limitations (calling sch_tree_lock() and returning a ptr)
> >> can be addressed in bpf. This will also help other similar use cases.
> >>
> >
> > For kptr, I wonder if we can support the following semantics in bpf if
> > they make sense:
>
> I think they are useful but they are not fully supported now.
>
> Some thoughts below.
>
> > 1. Passing a referenced kptr into a bpf program, which will also need
> > to be released, or exchanged into maps or allocated objects.
>
> "enqueue" should be the one considering here:
>
> struct Qdisc_ops {
>         /* ... */
>         int                     (*enqueue)(struct sk_buff *skb,
>                                            struct Qdisc *sch,
>                                            struct sk_buff **to_free);
>
> };
>
> The verifier only marks the skb as a trusted kptr but does not mark its
> reg->ref_obj_id. Take a look at btf_ctx_access(). In particular:
>
>         if (prog_args_trusted(prog))
>                 info->reg_type |= PTR_TRUSTED;
>
> The verifier does not know the skb ownership is passed into the ".enqueue" ops
> and does not know the bpf prog needs to release it or store it in a map.
>
> The verifier tracks the reference state when a KF_ACQUIRE kfunc is called (just
> an example, not saying we need to use KF_ACQUIRE kfunc). Take a look at
> acquire_reference_state() which is the useful one here.
>
> Whenever the verifier is loading the ".enqueue" bpf_prog, the verifier can
> always acquire_reference_state() for the "struct sk_buff *skb" argument.
>
> Take a look at a recent RFC:
> https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20240122212217.1391878-1-thinker.li@gmail.com/
> which is tagging the argument of an ops (e.g. ".enqueue" here). That RFC patch
> is tagging the argument could be NULL by appending "__nullable" to the argument
> name. The verifier will enforce that the bpf prog must check for NULL first.
>
> The similar idea can be used here but with a different tagging (for example,
> "__must_release", admittedly not a good name). While the RFC patch is
> in-progress, for now, may be hardcode for the ".enqueue" ops in
> check_struct_ops_btf_id() and always acquire_reference_state() for the skb. This
> part can be adjusted later once the RFC patch will be in shape.
>

Make sense. One more thing to consider here is that .enqueue is
actually a reference acquiring and releasing function at the same
time. Assuming ctx written to by a struct_ops program can be seen by
the kernel, another new tag for the "to_free" argument will still be
needed so that the verifier can recognize when writing skb to
"to_free".

>
> Then one more thing is to track when the struct_ops bpf prog is actually reading
> the value of the skb pointer. One thing is worth to mention here, e.g. a
> struct_ops prog for enqueue:
>
> SEC("struct_ops")
> int BPF_PROG(bpf_dropall_enqueue, struct sk_buff *skb, struct Qdisc *sch,
>              struct sk_buff **to_free)
> {
>         return bpf_qdisc_drop(skb, sch, to_free);
> }
>
> Take a look at the BPF_PROG macro, the bpf prog is getting a pointer to an array
> of __u64 as the only argument. The skb is actually in ctx[0], sch is in
> ctx[1]...etc. When ctx[0] is read to get the skb pointer (e.g. r1 = ctx[0]),
> btf_ctx_access() marks the reg_type to PTR_TRUSTED. It needs to also initialize
> the reg->ref_obj_id by the id obtained earlier from acquire_reference_state()
> during check_struct_ops_btf_id() somehow.
>
>
> > 2. Returning a kptr from a program and treating it as releasing the reference.
>
> e.g. for dequeue:
>
> struct Qdisc_ops {
>         /* ... */
>         struct sk_buff *        (*dequeue)(struct Qdisc *);
> };
>
>
> Right now the verifier should complain on check_reference_leak() if the
> struct_ops bpf prog is returning a referenced kptr.
>
> Unlike an argument, the return type of a function does not have a name to tag.
> It is the first case that a struct_ops bpf_prog returning a pointer. One idea is
> to assume it must be a trusted pointer (PTR_TRUSTED) and the verifier should
> check it is indeed with PTR_TRUSTED flag.
>
> May be release_reference_state() can be called to assume the kernel will release
> it as long as the return pointer type is PTR_TRUSTED and the type matches the
> return type of the ops. Take a look at check_return_code().

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-01-31 16:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-17 21:56 [RFC PATCH v7 0/8] net_sched: Introduce eBPF based Qdisc Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 1/8] " Amery Hung
2024-01-23 23:51   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-01-24  5:22     ` Amery Hung
2024-01-26  2:22       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-01-27  1:17         ` Amery Hung
2024-01-30  6:39           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-01-30 17:49             ` Kui-Feng Lee
2024-01-31  1:01               ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-01-31 16:49                 ` Kui-Feng Lee
2024-01-31 16:59                   ` Amery Hung
2024-01-31 16:23             ` Amery Hung [this message]
2024-02-02  1:47               ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-02-09 20:14                 ` Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 2/8] net_sched: Add kfuncs for working with skb Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 3/8] net_sched: Introduce kfunc bpf_skb_tc_classify() Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 4/8] net_sched: Add reset program Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 5/8] net_sched: Add init program Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 6/8] tools/libbpf: Add support for BPF_PROG_TYPE_QDISC Amery Hung
2024-01-23  0:17   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2024-01-23 19:40     ` Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 7/8] samples/bpf: Add an example of bpf fq qdisc Amery Hung
2024-01-24 10:29   ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-01-26 19:49     ` Amery Hung
2024-01-17 21:56 ` [RFC PATCH v7 8/8] samples/bpf: Add an example of bpf netem qdisc Amery Hung
2024-01-23 21:13 ` [RFC PATCH v7 0/8] net_sched: Introduce eBPF based Qdisc Stanislav Fomichev
2024-01-24 10:10   ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-01-24 12:09   ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2024-01-24 13:07     ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-01-24 14:11       ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2024-01-24 15:26         ` Daniel Borkmann
2024-01-24 21:26           ` Amery Hung
2024-01-25 11:57             ` Daniel Borkmann

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