From: Danielle Ratson <danieller@nvidia.com>
To: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>,
"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"davem@davemloft.net" <davem@davemloft.net>,
Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>,
"f.fainelli@gmail.com" <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
mlxsw <mlxsw@nvidia.com>, Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>,
"johannes@sipsolutions.net" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Subject: RE: [PATCH net-next 1/6] ethtool: Extend link modes settings uAPI with lanes
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 10:35:35 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DM6PR12MB4516B65021D4107188447282D8FA0@DM6PR12MB4516.namprd12.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201124221225.6ae444gcl7npoazh@lion.mk-sys.cz>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 25, 2020 12:12 AM
> To: Danielle Ratson <danieller@nvidia.com>
> Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>; Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>; Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>; Ido Schimmel
> <idosch@idosch.org>; netdev@vger.kernel.org; davem@davemloft.net; Jiri Pirko <jiri@nvidia.com>; f.fainelli@gmail.com; mlxsw
> <mlxsw@nvidia.com>; Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>; johannes@sipsolutions.net
> Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/6] ethtool: Extend link modes settings uAPI with lanes
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 09:47:53AM +0000, Danielle Ratson wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 7:28 PM
> > > To: Danielle Ratson <danieller@nvidia.com>
> > > Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>; Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>;
> > > Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>; Ido Schimmel <idosch@idosch.org>;
> > > netdev@vger.kernel.org; davem@davemloft.net; Jiri Pirko
> > > <jiri@nvidia.com>; f.fainelli@gmail.com; mlxsw <mlxsw@nvidia.com>;
> > > Ido Schimmel <idosch@nvidia.com>; johannes@sipsolutions.net
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 1/6] ethtool: Extend link modes
> > > settings uAPI with lanes
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 06:15:48AM +0000, Danielle Ratson wrote:
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@suse.cz>
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 11:48 AM
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah, right, it does. But as you extend struct
> > > > > ethtool_link_ksettings and drivers will need to be updated to
> > > > > provide this information, wouldn't it be more useful to let the
> > > > > driver provide link mode in use instead (and derive number of lanes from it)?
> > > >
> > > > This is the way it is done with the speed parameter, so I have
> > > > aligned it to it. Why the lanes should be done differently
> > > > comparing to the speed?
> > >
> > > Speed and duplex have worked this way since ages and the interface
> > > was probably introduced back in times when combination of speed and
> > > duplex was sufficient to identify the link mode. This is no longer
> > > the case and even adding number of lanes wouldn't make the combination unique. So if we are going to extend the interface now
> and update drivers to provide extra information, I believe it would be more useful to provide full information.
> > >
> > > Michal
> >
> > Hi Michal,
> >
> > What do you think of passing the link modes you have suggested as a
> > bitmask, similar to "supported", that contains only one positive bit?
> > Something like that:
Hi Michal,
Thanks for your response.
Actually what I said is not very accurate.
In ethtool, for speed 100G and 4 lanes for example, there are few link modes that fits:
ETHTOOL_LINK_MODE_100000baseKR4_Full_BIT
ETHTOOL_LINK_MODE_100000baseSR4_Full_BIT
ETHTOOL_LINK_MODE_100000baseCR4_Full_BIT
ETHTOOL_LINK_MODE_100000baseLR4_ER4_Full_BIT
The difference is the media. And in the driver we shrink into one bit.
But maybe that makes passing a bitmask more sense, or am I missing something?
> >
> > diff --git a/include/linux/ethtool.h b/include/linux/ethtool.h index
> > afae2beacbc3..dd946c88daa3 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/ethtool.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/ethtool.h
> > @@ -127,6 +127,7 @@ struct ethtool_link_ksettings {
> > __ETHTOOL_DECLARE_LINK_MODE_MASK(supported);
> > __ETHTOOL_DECLARE_LINK_MODE_MASK(advertising);
> > __ETHTOOL_DECLARE_LINK_MODE_MASK(lp_advertising);
> > + __ETHTOOL_DECLARE_LINK_MODE_MASK(chosen);
> > } link_modes;
> > u32 lanes;
> > };
> >
> > Do you have perhaps a better suggestion?
>
> Not sure if it's better but as we know there is only one mode, we could simply pass the index. We would still need to reserve a special
> value for none/unknown but getting an index would make lookup easier.
>
> > And the speed and duplex parameters should be removed from being
> > passed like as well, right?
>
> We cannot remove them from struct ethtool_link_settings and the ioctl and netlink messages as those are part of UAPI and we have
> to preserve backward compatibility. But drivers which provide link mode would not need to fill speed and duplex in their -
> >get_link_ksettings() as the common code could do that for them.
Yes of course I didn't mean to remove the parameters from the struct, just to not prepare them for passing to ethtool when getting the link settings.
Thanks.
>
> Michal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-25 10:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-10 15:41 [PATCH net-next 0/6] Support setting lanes via ethtool Ido Schimmel
2020-10-10 15:41 ` [PATCH net-next 1/6] ethtool: Extend link modes settings uAPI with lanes Ido Schimmel
2020-10-11 22:37 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-12 15:33 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-10-12 15:58 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-13 14:29 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-10-13 15:43 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-16 22:15 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-19 7:19 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-10-19 11:04 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-10-19 12:26 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-10-19 13:24 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-10-20 7:39 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-10-21 7:08 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-10-21 7:20 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-10-21 8:47 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-10-22 6:15 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-10-22 16:27 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-11-23 9:47 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-11-24 22:12 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-11-25 10:35 ` Danielle Ratson [this message]
2020-11-26 21:07 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-12-01 17:22 ` Danielle Ratson
2020-12-02 0:52 ` Edwin Peer
2020-12-02 1:17 ` Edwin Peer
2020-10-19 12:24 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-10-19 12:38 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-10-12 16:40 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-10-12 19:10 ` Johannes Berg
2020-10-12 20:08 ` Jakub Kicinski
2020-10-12 17:03 ` Michal Kubecek
2020-11-19 20:38 ` Edwin Peer
2020-11-23 9:40 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-11-30 17:01 ` Edwin Peer
2020-11-30 17:14 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-11-30 18:00 ` Edwin Peer
2020-12-01 11:22 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-12-02 0:32 ` Edwin Peer
2020-12-02 10:09 ` Jiri Pirko
2020-12-02 17:53 ` Edwin Peer
2020-10-10 15:41 ` [PATCH net-next 2/6] ethtool: Expose the number of lanes in use Ido Schimmel
2020-10-10 15:41 ` [PATCH net-next 3/6] mlxsw: ethtool: Remove max lanes filtering Ido Schimmel
2020-10-10 15:41 ` [PATCH net-next 4/6] mlxsw: ethtool: Add support for setting lanes when autoneg is off Ido Schimmel
2020-10-10 15:41 ` [PATCH net-next 5/6] mlxsw: ethtool: Expose the number of lanes in use Ido Schimmel
2020-10-10 15:41 ` [PATCH net-next 6/6] net: selftests: Add lanes setting test Ido Schimmel
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