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From: Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>
To: "Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL" <aprout@ll.mit.edu>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Paasch <christoph.paasch@gmail.com>
Cc: "David S . Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Jonathan Looney <jtl@netflix.com>,
	Neal Cardwell <ncardwell@google.com>,
	Tyler Hicks <tyhicks@canonical.com>,
	Yuchung Cheng <ycheng@google.com>,
	Bruce Curtis <brucec@netflix.com>,
	Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@gmail.com>,
	Dustin Marquess <dmarquess@apple.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/4] tcp: tcp_fragment() should apply sane memory limits
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2019 20:28:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d4b1ab65-c308-382a-2a0e-9042750335e0@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adec774ed16540c6b627c2f607f3e216@ll.mit.edu>



On 7/11/19 7:14 PM, Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL wrote:
> 
> In my opinion, if a small SO_SNDBUF below a certain value is no longer supported, then SOCK_MIN_SNDBUF should be adjusted to reflect this. The RCVBUF/SNDBUF sizes are supposed to be hints, no error is returned if they are not honored. The kernel should continue to function regardless of what userspace requests for their values.
> 

It is supported to set whatever SO_SNDBUF value and get terrible performance.

It always has been.

The only difference is that we no longer allow an attacker to fool TCP stack
and consume up to 2 GB per socket while SO_SNDBUF was set to 128 KB.

The side effect is that in some cases, the workload can appear to have the signature of the attack.

The solution is to increase your SO_SNDBUF, or even better let TCP stack autotune it.
nobody forced you to set very small values for it.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-11 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-17 17:03 [PATCH net 0/4] tcp: make sack processing more robust Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 1/4] tcp: limit payload size of sacked skbs Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:14   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 2/4] tcp: tcp_fragment() should apply sane memory limits Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:14   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-18  0:18   ` Christoph Paasch
2019-06-18  2:28     ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-18  3:19       ` Christoph Paasch
2019-06-18  3:44         ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-18  3:53           ` Christoph Paasch
2019-06-18  4:08             ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-10 18:23         ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-07-10 18:28           ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-10 18:53             ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-07-10 19:26               ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11  7:28                 ` Christoph Paasch
2019-07-11  9:19                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11 18:26                     ` Michal Kubecek
2019-07-11 18:50                       ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11 10:18                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-11 17:14                 ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-07-11 18:28                   ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2019-07-11 19:04                     ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-07-12  7:05                       ` Eric Dumazet
2019-07-16 15:13                   ` Prout, Andrew - LLSC - MITLL
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 3/4] tcp: add tcp_min_snd_mss sysctl Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:15   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-17 17:18   ` Tyler Hicks
2019-06-17 17:03 ` [PATCH net 4/4] tcp: enforce tcp_min_snd_mss in tcp_mtu_probing() Eric Dumazet
2019-06-17 17:16   ` Jonathan Lemon
2019-06-17 17:18   ` Tyler Hicks
2019-06-17 17:41 ` [PATCH net 0/4] tcp: make sack processing more robust David Miller
2019-08-02 19:02 [PATCH net 2/4] tcp: tcp_fragment() should apply sane memory limits Bernd
2019-08-02 19:14 ` Neal Cardwell
2019-08-02 19:58   ` Bernd
2019-08-14 14:41     ` Marcelo Ricardo Leitner

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