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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Oscar Salvador <osalvador@techadventures.net>
Cc: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org,
	pavel.tatashin@microsoft.com, dave.jiang@intel.com,
	dave.hansen@intel.com, jglisse@redhat.com,
	rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	logang@deltatee.com, mingo@kernel.org,
	kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] mm: Defer ZONE_DEVICE page initialization to the point where we init pgmap
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 15:13:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180927131329.GI6278@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180927122537.GA20378@techadventures.net>

On Thu 27-09-18 14:25:37, Oscar Salvador wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 27, 2018 at 01:09:26PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > So there were a few things I wasn't sure we could pull outside of the
> > > hotplug lock. One specific example is the bits related to resizing the pgdat
> > > and zone. I wanted to avoid pulling those bits outside of the hotplug lock.
> > 
> > Why would that be a problem. There are dedicated locks for resizing.
> 
> True is that move_pfn_range_to_zone() manages the locks for pgdat/zone resizing,
> but it also takes care of calling init_currently_empty_zone() in case the zone is empty.
> Could not that be a problem if we take move_pfn_range_to_zone() out of the lock?

I would have to double check but is the hotplug lock really serializing
access to the state initialized by init_currently_empty_zone? E.g.
zone_start_pfn is a nice example of a state that is used outside of the
lock. zone's free lists are similar. So do we really need the hoptlug
lock? And more broadly, what does the hotplug lock is supposed to
serialize in general. A proper documentation would surely help to answer
these questions. There is way too much of "do not touch this code and
just make my particular hack" mindset which made the whole memory
hotplug a giant pile of mess. We really should start with some proper
engineering here finally.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-27 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-25 20:18 [PATCH v5 0/4] Address issues slowing persistent memory initialization Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 20:19 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] mm: Remove now defunct NO_BOOTMEM from depends list for deferred init Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 21:05   ` Mike Rapoport
2018-09-25 20:20 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] mm: Provide kernel parameter to allow disabling page init poisoning Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 20:26   ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-25 20:38     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 22:14       ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-25 22:27         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26  7:38   ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-26 15:24     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 15:39       ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-26 15:41       ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-26 16:18         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 15:36     ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-26 22:36       ` Andrew Morton
2018-09-25 20:20 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] mm: Create non-atomic version of SetPageReserved for init use Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] mm: Defer ZONE_DEVICE page initialization to the point where we init pgmap Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26  7:55   ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-26 18:25     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 18:52       ` Dan Williams
2018-09-27 11:20         ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-27 11:09       ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-27 12:25         ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-27 13:13           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-09-27 14:50             ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-27 15:41               ` David Hildenbrand
2018-09-28  8:12             ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-28  8:44               ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-28 15:50                 ` Dan Williams
2018-09-27 12:32       ` Oscar Salvador
2018-10-08 21:01   ` Dan Williams
2018-10-08 21:38     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-08 22:00       ` Dan Williams
2018-10-08 22:07         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-08 22:36         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-08 22:59           ` Dan Williams
2018-10-08 23:34     ` [mm PATCH] memremap: Fix reference count for pgmap in devm_memremap_pages Alexander Duyck
2018-10-09  0:20       ` Dan Williams
2018-10-09 17:00   ` [PATCH v5 4/4] mm: Defer ZONE_DEVICE page initialization to the point where we init pgmap Yi Zhang
2018-10-09 18:04     ` Dan Williams
2018-10-09 20:26       ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-09 21:19         ` Dan Williams
2018-10-10 12:52           ` Yi Zhang
2018-10-10 15:27             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-11  8:17               ` Yi Zhang
2018-10-10  9:58         ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 16:39           ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-10 17:24             ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 17:39               ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-10 17:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 18:13                   ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-10 18:52                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-11  8:55                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-11 17:38                     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-11 18:22                       ` Dan Williams
2018-10-17  7:52                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-17 15:02                         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 14:12                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 15:59                             ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 16:35                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 17:01                                 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 17:24                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 17:34                                     ` Dan Williams
2018-10-29 17:45                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 17:42                                     ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 18:18                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 19:59                                         ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-30  6:29                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-30  6:55                                             ` Dan Williams
2018-10-30  8:17                                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-30 15:57                                                 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-30  8:05                                           ` Oscar Salvador
2018-10-29 15:49                           ` Dan Williams
2018-10-29 15:56                             ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 18:18               ` Dan Williams
2018-10-11  8:39                 ` Yi Zhang
2018-10-11 15:38                   ` Alexander Duyck

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