From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.h.duyck@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "Pasha Tatashin" <pavel.tatashin@microsoft.com>,
osalvador@techadventures.net,
linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
"Linux Kernel Mailing List" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@kernel.org>, "Linux MM" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
rppt@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 4/4] mm: Defer ZONE_DEVICE page initialization to the point where we init pgmap
Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 07:29:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181030062915.GT32673@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3281f3044fa231bbc1b02d5c5efca3502a0d05a8.camel@linux.intel.com>
On Mon 29-10-18 12:59:11, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Mon, 2018-10-29 at 19:18 +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
I will try to get to your other points later.
> > diff --git a/mm/page_alloc.c b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > index 89d2a2ab3fe6..048e4cc72fdf 100644
> > --- a/mm/page_alloc.c
> > +++ b/mm/page_alloc.c
> > @@ -5474,8 +5474,8 @@ void __meminit memmap_init_zone(unsigned long size, int nid, unsigned long zone,
> > * Honor reservation requested by the driver for this ZONE_DEVICE
> > * memory
> > */
> > - if (altmap && start_pfn == altmap->base_pfn)
> > - start_pfn += altmap->reserve;
> > + if (pgmap && pgmap->get_memmap)
> > + start_pfn = pgmap->get_memmap(pgmap, start_pfn);
> >
> > for (pfn = start_pfn; pfn < end_pfn; pfn++) {
> > /*
> >
> > [...]
>
> The only reason why I hadn't bothered with these bits is that I was
> actually trying to leave this generic since I thought I had seen other
> discussions about hotplug scenerios where memory may want to change
> where the vmmemmap is initialized other than just the case of
> ZONE_DEVICE pages. So I was thinking at some point we may see altmap
> without the pgmap.
I wanted to abuse altmap to allocate struct pages from the physical
range to be added. In that case I would abstract the
allocation/initialization part of pgmap into a more abstract type.
Something trivially to be done without affecting end users of the
hotplug API.
[...]
> > Anyway we have gone into details while the primary problem here was that
> > the hotplug lock doesn't scale AFAIR. And my question was why cannot we
> > pull move_pfn_range_to_zone and what has to be done to achieve that.
> > That is a fundamental thing to address first. Then you can microptimize
> > on top.
>
> Yes, the hotplug lock was part of the original issue. However that
> starts to drift into the area I believe Oscar was working on as a part
> of his patch set in encapsulating the move_pfn_range_to_zone and other
> calls that were contained in the hotplug lock into their own functions.
Well, I would really love to keep the external API as simple as
possible. That means that we need arch_add_memory/add_pages and
move_pfn_range_to_zone to associate pages with a zone. The hotplug lock
should be preferably hidden from callers of those two and ideally it
shouldn't be a global lock. We should be good with a range lock.
> The patches Andrew pushed addressed the immediate issue so that now
> systems with nvdimm/DAX memory can at least initialize quick enough
> that systemd doesn't refuse to mount the root file system due to a
> timeout.
This is about the first time you actually mention that. I have re-read
the cover letter and all changelogs of patches in this serious. Unless I
have missed something there is nothing about real users hitting issues
out there. nvdimm is still considered a toy because there is no real HW
users can play with.
And hence my complains about half baked solutions rushed in just to fix
a performance regression. I can certainly understand that a pressing
problem might justify to rush things a bit but this should be always
carefuly justified.
> The next patch set I have refactors things to reduce code and
> allow us to reuse some of the hotplug code for the deferred page init,
> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20181017235043.17213.92459.stgit@localhost.localdomain/
> . After that I was planning to work on dealing with the PageReserved
> flag and trying to get that sorted out.
>
> I was hoping to wait until after Dan's HMM patches and Oscar's changes
> had been sorted before I get into any further refactor of this specific
> code.
Yes there is quite a lot going on here. I would really appreciate if we
all sit and actually try to come up with something robust rather than
hack here and there. I haven't yet seen your follow up series completely
so maybe you are indeed heading the correct direction.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-10-30 6:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-09-25 20:18 [PATCH v5 0/4] Address issues slowing persistent memory initialization Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 20:19 ` [PATCH v5 1/4] mm: Remove now defunct NO_BOOTMEM from depends list for deferred init Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 21:05 ` Mike Rapoport
2018-09-25 20:20 ` [PATCH v5 2/4] mm: Provide kernel parameter to allow disabling page init poisoning Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 20:26 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-25 20:38 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 22:14 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-25 22:27 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 7:38 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-26 15:24 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 15:39 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-26 15:41 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-26 16:18 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 15:36 ` Dave Hansen
2018-09-26 22:36 ` Andrew Morton
2018-09-25 20:20 ` [PATCH v5 3/4] mm: Create non-atomic version of SetPageReserved for init use Alexander Duyck
2018-09-25 20:21 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] mm: Defer ZONE_DEVICE page initialization to the point where we init pgmap Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 7:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-26 18:25 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-09-26 18:52 ` Dan Williams
2018-09-27 11:20 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-27 11:09 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-27 12:25 ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-27 13:13 ` Michal Hocko
2018-09-27 14:50 ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-27 15:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2018-09-28 8:12 ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-28 8:44 ` Oscar Salvador
2018-09-28 15:50 ` Dan Williams
2018-09-27 12:32 ` Oscar Salvador
2018-10-08 21:01 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-08 21:38 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-08 22:00 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-08 22:07 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-08 22:36 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-08 22:59 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-08 23:34 ` [mm PATCH] memremap: Fix reference count for pgmap in devm_memremap_pages Alexander Duyck
2018-10-09 0:20 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-09 17:00 ` [PATCH v5 4/4] mm: Defer ZONE_DEVICE page initialization to the point where we init pgmap Yi Zhang
2018-10-09 18:04 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-09 20:26 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-09 21:19 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-10 12:52 ` Yi Zhang
2018-10-10 15:27 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-11 8:17 ` Yi Zhang
2018-10-10 9:58 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 16:39 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-10 17:24 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 17:39 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-10 17:53 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 18:13 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-10 18:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-11 8:55 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-11 17:38 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-11 18:22 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-17 7:52 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-17 15:02 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 14:12 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 15:59 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 16:35 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 17:01 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 17:24 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 17:34 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-29 17:45 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 17:42 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-29 18:18 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-29 19:59 ` Alexander Duyck
2018-10-30 6:29 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-10-30 6:55 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-30 8:17 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-30 15:57 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-30 8:05 ` Oscar Salvador
2018-10-29 15:49 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-29 15:56 ` Michal Hocko
2018-10-10 18:18 ` Dan Williams
2018-10-11 8:39 ` Yi Zhang
2018-10-11 15:38 ` Alexander Duyck
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