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From: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] qemu-img convert: Fix sparseness detection
Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 19:12:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A540D5C1-F0D5-4D82-B048-11BDB550D346@kamp.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YH14BcdHL3swf9Q2@merkur.fritz.box>



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

> Am 19.04.2021 um 14:31 schrieb Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>:
> 
> Am 19.04.2021 um 11:13 hat Peter Lieven geschrieben:
>> 
>> 
>>>> Am 19.04.2021 um 10:36 schrieb Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 15.04.2021 um 17:22 schrieb Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> Peter, three years ago you changed 'qemu-img convert' to sacrifice some
>>>> sparsification in order to get aligned requests on the target image. At
>>>> the time, I thought the impact would be small, but it turns out that
>>>> this can end up wasting gigabytes of storagee (like converting a fully
>>>> zeroed 10 GB image taking 2.8 GB instead of a few kilobytes).
>>>> 
>>>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1882917
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not entirely sure how to attack this best since this is a tradeoff,
>>>> but maybe the approach in this series is still good enough for the case
>>>> that you wanted to fix back then?
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, it would be possible to have a more complete fix like looking
>>>> forward a few blocks more before writing data, but that would probably
>>>> not be entirely trivial because you would have to merge blocks with ZERO
>>>> block status with DATA blocks that contain only zeros. I'm not sure if
>>>> it's worth this complication of the code.
>>> 
>>> I will try to look into this asap.
>> 
>> Besides from the reproducer described in the ticket, I retried my old
>> conversion test in our environment:
>> 
>> Before commit 8dcd3c9b91: reads 4608 writes 14959
>> After commit 8dcd3c9b91: reads 0 writes 14924
>> With Kevins patch: reads 110 writes 14924
>> 
>> I think this is a good result if it avoids other issues.
> 
> Sounds like a promising way to make the tradeoff. Thanks for testing!

is this sth for 6.0-rc4?

Peter





  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-19 17:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-15 15:22 [RFC PATCH 0/2] qemu-img convert: Fix sparseness detection Kevin Wolf
2021-04-15 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] iotests: Test qemu-img convert of zeroed data cluster Kevin Wolf
2021-04-15 15:22 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] qemu-img convert: Fix sparseness detection Kevin Wolf
2021-04-20 14:31   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-04-20 15:04     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-04-20 16:52       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-05-19 13:24         ` Peter Lieven
2021-05-19 16:48           ` Kevin Wolf
2021-12-03 11:17             ` Peter Lieven
2021-12-03 23:04               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2021-12-04  9:53                 ` Peter Lieven
2021-12-17 14:43                 ` Peter Lieven
2021-04-19  8:36 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] " Peter Lieven
2021-04-19  9:13   ` Peter Lieven
2021-04-19 12:31     ` Kevin Wolf
2021-04-19 17:12       ` Peter Lieven [this message]
2021-04-20  6:49         ` Kevin Wolf
2021-04-19 11:22   ` Kevin Wolf

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