From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
To: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Cc: rcu@vger.kernel.org, rostedt@goodmis.org, bristot@redhat.com
Subject: Re: RCU_BOOST not working for me
Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2020 14:29:59 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200118222959.GW2935@paulmck-ThinkPad-P72> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200118202131.GE244899@google.com>
On Sat, Jan 18, 2020 at 03:21:31PM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 08:54:36PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 08:34:58PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 09:34:34PM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 03:17:56PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > > But rcutorture already has tests for RCU priority boosting. Or are those
> > > > > failing in some way?
> > > >
> > > > Yes there are tests, but I thought of just a simple experiment to study this.
> > > > Purely since it is existing RCU kernel code that I'd like to understand. And
> > > > me/Daniel are also looking into possibly using run-time / trace-based
> > > > verification some of these behaviors.
> > >
> > > The functionality of rcu_state.cbovld should make that more entertaining.
> > >
> > > But I would guess that the initial model would ignore memory footprint
> > > and just model RCU priority boosting as kicking in a fixed time after
> > > the beginning of the grace period.
> > >
> > > Or do you guys have something else in mind?
> > >
> > > Thanx, Paul
> > >
> > > PS. Steve, yes, I do well remember our earlier discussions about readers
> > > inheriting priority from the highest-priority synchronize_rcu(). ;-)
> >
> > To see the reason why RCU priority boosting does not work like that,
> > consider a (stupid but legal) situation with way more tasks like this
> > than the system can handle:
> >
> > for (;;) {
> > cond_resched();
> > p = kmalloc(sizeof(*p), GFP_ATOMIC);
> > if (!p)
> > continue;
> > rcu_read_lock();
> > kfree(&p->rh, my_func);
> > rcu_read_unlock(;
> > }
> >
> > Nothing is ever waiting on the RCU grace period, so there is no natural
> > place for priority to be inherited from.
> >
> > But the current RCU priority boosting works just fine in this situation,
> > at least assuming rcutree.kthread_prio is set suitably. And if it is
> > not working fine in some other situation, it would be good for someone
> > to let me in on the secret. ;-)
>
> But in this example, you don't have anyone starting a grace period. So how
> would the boosting be done? Somebody has to kick boosting into action?
Gah!
Right you are. Please s/kfree/kfree_rcu/.
It was late and I was tired. ;-)
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-01-18 22:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-01-17 21:58 RCU_BOOST not working for me Joel Fernandes
2020-01-17 22:18 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-17 23:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-18 2:10 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-18 2:32 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-18 4:31 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-18 4:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-18 20:12 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-18 22:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-18 2:34 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-18 4:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-18 4:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-18 20:21 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-18 22:29 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2020-01-18 20:19 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-18 22:47 ` Paul E. McKenney
2020-01-19 1:58 ` Joel Fernandes
2020-01-19 5:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
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