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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Mark Salyzyn <salyzyn@android.com>,
	Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	overlayfs <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, selinux@vger.kernel.org,
	Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: overlayfs access checks on underlying layers
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2018 11:17:47 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181204161747.GC16818@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <665ec6f3-f16d-681f-30d5-eface14c9808@tycho.nsa.gov>

On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 11:05:46AM -0500, Stephen Smalley wrote:
> On 12/4/18 10:42 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 04, 2018 at 04:31:09PM +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 4:22 PM Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Having said that, this still create little anomaly when mknod to client
> > > > is not allowed on context label. So a device file, which is on lower
> > > > and client can not open it for read/write on host, it can now be opened
> > > > for read/write because mounter will allow access. So why it is different
> > > > that regular copy up. Well, in regular copy up, we created a copy of
> > > > the original object and allowed writing to that object (cp --preserve=all)
> > > > model. But in case of device file, writes will go to same original
> > > > object. (And not a separate copy).
> > > 
> > > That's true.
> > > 
> > > In that sense copy up of special file should result in upper having
> > > the same label as of lower, right?
> > 
> > I guess that might be reasonable (if this behavior is a concern). So even
> > after copy up, client will not be able to read/write a device if it was
> > not allowed on lower.
> > 
> > Stephen, what do you think about retaining label of lower for device
> > files during copy up. What about socket/fifo.
> 
> We don't check client task access to the upper inode label, only to the
> overlay, right?  So the client is still free to access the device through
> the overlay even if we preserve the lower inode label on the upper inode?
> What do we gain?

That's only with latest code and Miklos said he will revert it for 4.20.

IOW, I am assuming that we will continue to check access to a file
on upper in the context of mounter. Otherwise, client will be able to access
files on upper/ which even mounter can't access.

Thanks
Vivek

  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-04 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-27 19:55 overlayfs access checks on underlying layers Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-27 19:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-27 21:05   ` Vivek Goyal
2018-11-28 10:00     ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-28 17:03       ` Vivek Goyal
2018-11-28 19:34         ` Stephen Smalley
2018-11-28 20:24           ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-28 21:46             ` Stephen Smalley
2018-11-29 11:04               ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-29 13:49                 ` Vivek Goyal
2019-03-04 17:01                   ` Mark Salyzyn
2019-03-04 17:56                     ` Casey Schaufler
2019-03-04 18:44                     ` Stephen Smalley
2019-03-04 19:21                       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-11-29 16:16                 ` Stephen Smalley
2018-11-29 16:22                   ` Stephen Smalley
2018-11-29 19:47                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-11-29 21:03                     ` Stephen Smalley
2018-11-29 21:19                       ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-04 13:32                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-12-04 14:30                           ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-04 14:45                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-12-04 15:35                               ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-04 15:39                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-12-11 15:50                                   ` Paul Moore
2018-12-04 15:15                             ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-04 15:22                               ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-04 15:31                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-12-04 15:42                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-04 16:05                                     ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-04 16:17                                       ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2018-12-04 16:49                                         ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-05 13:43                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-06 20:26                                             ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-11 21:48                                               ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-12 14:51                                                 ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-13 14:58                                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-13 16:12                                                     ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-13 18:54                                                       ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-13 20:09                                                         ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-13 20:26                                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2018-12-04 15:42                               ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-04 16:15                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2018-11-29 22:22                     ` Daniel Walsh
2018-12-03 23:27                       ` Paul Moore
2018-12-04 14:43                         ` Stephen Smalley
2018-12-04 23:01                           ` Paul Moore

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