From: Julien Grall <julien.grall@arm.com>
To: Andrii Anisov <andrii.anisov@gmail.com>, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org
Cc: Volodymyr Babchuk <Volodymyr_Babchuk@epam.com>,
Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
Andrii Anisov <andrii_anisov@epam.com>,
Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [RFC 5/6] arm64: call enter_hypervisor_head only when it is needed
Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2019 12:02:20 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <8c7bc6d1-3482-ec5b-b3d9-c6562caf5711@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <63256c34-fab7-1fb8-3637-9c5a50d6d6bf@gmail.com>
Hi Andrii,
On 30/07/2019 18:35, Andrii Anisov wrote:
>
> On 26.07.19 13:59, Julien Grall wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 26/07/2019 11:37, Andrii Anisov wrote:
>>> From: Andrii Anisov <andrii_anisov@epam.com>
>>>
>>> On ARM64 we know exactly if trap happened from hypervisor or guest, so
>>> we do not need to take that decision. This reduces a condition for
>>> all enter_hypervisor_head calls and the function call for traps from
>>> the hypervisor mode.
>>
>> One condition lost but ...
>
> ...In the hot path (actually at any trap).
Everything is in the hot path here, yet there are a lot of other branches. So
why this branch in particular?
As I have mentioned a few times before, there are a difference between the
theory and the practice. In theory, removing a branch looks nice. But in
practice this may not be the case.
In this particular case, I don't believe this is going to have a real impact on
the performance.
The PSTATE has been saved a few instructions before in cpu_user_regs, so there
are high chance the value will still be in the L1 cache.
The compiler may also decide to do the direct branch when not in guest_mode. A
trap from the hypervisor is mostly for interrupts. So there are chance this is
not going to have a real impact on the overall of the interrupt handling.
If you are really worry of the impact of branch then there are a few more
important places (with a greater benefits) to look:
1) It seems the compiler use a jump table for the switch case in
do_trap_guest_sync(), so it will result to multiple direct branch everytime.
2) Indirect branch have a non-negligible cost compare to direct branch.
This is a lot used in the interrupt code (see gic_hw_ops->read_irq()). All of
them are known at boot time, so they could be replace with direct branch. x86
recently introduced alternative_call() for this purpose. This could be re-used
on Arm.
Cheers,
--
Julien Grall
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-07-26 10:37 [Xen-devel] [RFC 0/6] XEN scheduling hardening Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:37 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 1/6] xen/arm: Re-enable interrupt later in the trap path Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:48 ` Julien Grall
2019-07-30 17:35 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-30 20:10 ` Julien Grall
2019-08-01 6:45 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-01 9:37 ` Julien Grall
2019-08-02 8:28 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-02 9:03 ` Julien Grall
2019-08-02 12:24 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-02 13:22 ` Julien Grall
2019-08-01 11:19 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-02 7:50 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-02 9:15 ` Julien Grall
2019-08-02 13:07 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-02 13:49 ` Julien Grall
2019-08-03 1:39 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-03 0:55 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-06 13:09 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-08 14:07 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-13 14:45 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-15 18:25 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:37 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 2/6] schedule: account true system idle time Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 12:00 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-26 12:42 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-29 11:40 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-08-01 8:23 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:37 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 3/6] sysctl: extend XEN_SYSCTL_getcpuinfo interface Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 12:15 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-26 13:06 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:37 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 4/6] xentop: show CPU load information Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:37 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 5/6] arm64: сall enter_hypervisor_head only when it is needed Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:44 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:37 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 5/6] arm64: call " Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:59 ` Julien Grall
2019-07-30 17:35 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-31 11:02 ` Julien Grall [this message]
2019-07-31 11:33 ` Andre Przywara
2019-08-01 7:33 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-08-01 10:17 ` Julien Grall
2019-08-02 13:50 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 10:37 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 6/6] schedule: account all the hypervisor time to the idle vcpu Andrii Anisov
2019-07-26 11:56 ` [Xen-devel] [RFC 0/6] XEN scheduling hardening Dario Faggioli
2019-07-26 12:14 ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-29 11:53 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-29 12:13 ` Juergen Gross
2019-07-29 14:47 ` Andrii Anisov
2019-07-29 18:46 ` Dario Faggioli
2019-07-29 14:28 ` Andrii Anisov
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