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From: Ken Goldman <kgold@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ima-devel] [PATCH 0/7] IMA: new parser for ima_restore_measurement_list()
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 16:48:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08bd9fcb-d3ba-e76e-928e-f569e8a4be74@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b204e09-c1c0-b3bc-90fe-a8dfb86baadc@huawei.com>

On 5/18/2017 5:38 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On 5/17/2017 6:28 PM, Ken Goldman wrote:
>> On 5/17/2017 3:25 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>>>
>>> The format of digestN is: <algo name>:\0<digest value>, the same used
>>> for the file digest.
>>
>> Since the format is changing from the SHA-1 log format anyway ...
>>
>> How do people feel about the colon and null terminated string format for
>> algorithm identifiers?
>>
>> The TCG standard enumerations are uint16_t, and there is a registry of
>> hash algorithms.
>>
>> As a consuming parser, it feels nice to know it's always 2 bytes and not
>> have to worry about a missing colon or a missing nul terminator risking
>> a buffer overflow.
> 
> There cannot be buffer overflow, because the length of each digest
> field is known.
> 
> Roberto
> 

I was not referring to the digest, but the digest algorithm.

I wanted opinions on the colon and null terminated string format for 
algorithm identifiers.

The TCG standard log uses the TCG standard enumerations.  They're always 
exactly 2 bytes.  Parsing is trivial.

If IMA uses strings, the attacker can send, e.g., sha1: and not null 
terminate it.  A careful parser can go a byte at a time until it reaches 
a maximum length - if you specify a maximum length.  But it is an attack 
surface.  Is there a corresponding advantage?

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From: kgold@linux.vnet.ibm.com (Ken Goldman)
To: linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Linux-ima-devel] [PATCH 0/7] IMA: new parser for ima_restore_measurement_list()
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 16:48:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <08bd9fcb-d3ba-e76e-928e-f569e8a4be74@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3b204e09-c1c0-b3bc-90fe-a8dfb86baadc@huawei.com>

On 5/18/2017 5:38 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote:
> On 5/17/2017 6:28 PM, Ken Goldman wrote:
>> On 5/17/2017 3:25 AM, Roberto Sassu wrote:
>>>
>>> The format of digestN is: <algo name>:\0<digest value>, the same used
>>> for the file digest.
>>
>> Since the format is changing from the SHA-1 log format anyway ...
>>
>> How do people feel about the colon and null terminated string format for
>> algorithm identifiers?
>>
>> The TCG standard enumerations are uint16_t, and there is a registry of
>> hash algorithms.
>>
>> As a consuming parser, it feels nice to know it's always 2 bytes and not
>> have to worry about a missing colon or a missing nul terminator risking
>> a buffer overflow.
> 
> There cannot be buffer overflow, because the length of each digest
> field is known.
> 
> Roberto
> 

I was not referring to the digest, but the digest algorithm.

I wanted opinions on the colon and null terminated string format for 
algorithm identifiers.

The TCG standard log uses the TCG standard enumerations.  They're always 
exactly 2 bytes.  Parsing is trivial.

If IMA uses strings, the attacker can send, e.g., sha1: and not null 
terminate it.  A careful parser can go a byte at a time until it reaches 
a maximum length - if you specify a maximum length.  But it is an attack 
surface.  Is there a corresponding advantage?

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-23 20:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-16 12:53 [PATCH 0/7] IMA: new parser for ima_restore_measurement_list() Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53 ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53 ` [PATCH 1/7] ima: introduce ima_parse_buf() Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-05  5:54   ` [Linux-ima-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2017-06-05  5:54     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-05-16 12:53 ` [PATCH 2/7] ima: use ima_parse_buf() to parse measurements headers Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53 ` [PATCH 3/7] ima: use ima_parse_buf() to parse template data Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53 ` [PATCH 4/7] ima: declare get_binary_runtime_size() as non-static Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53 ` [PATCH 5/7] ima: add securityfs interface to save a measurements list with kexec header Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-05  6:04   ` [Linux-ima-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2017-06-05  6:04     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-06  8:49     ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-06  8:49       ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-06 10:56       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-06 10:56         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-06 12:45         ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-06 12:45           ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-06 13:23           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-06 13:23             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-13  7:27             ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-13  7:27               ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-13 12:09               ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-13 12:09                 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-13 12:37                 ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-13 12:37                   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-06  9:13     ` [Linux-ima-devel] " Roberto Sassu
2017-06-06  9:13       ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-06 11:33       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-06-06 11:33         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-05-16 12:53 ` [PATCH 6/7] ima: add securityfs interface to restore a measurements list Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-06-05  5:56   ` [Linux-ima-devel] " Mimi Zohar
2017-06-05  5:56     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-05-16 12:53 ` [PATCH 7/7] ima: fix get_binary_runtime_size() Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 12:53   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-16 19:00 ` [Linux-ima-devel] [PATCH 0/7] IMA: new parser for ima_restore_measurement_list() Ken Goldman
2017-05-16 19:00   ` Ken Goldman
2017-05-17  7:25   ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-17  7:25     ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-17 16:28     ` Ken Goldman
2017-05-17 16:28       ` Ken Goldman
2017-05-18  9:38       ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-18  9:38         ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-23 20:48         ` Ken Goldman [this message]
2017-05-23 20:48           ` Ken Goldman
2017-05-24  8:18           ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-24  8:18             ` Roberto Sassu
2017-05-23 21:00         ` Ken Goldman
2017-05-23 21:00           ` Ken Goldman

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