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From: Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>
To: Fouad Hilly <fouad.hilly@cloud.com>
Cc: "Wei Liu" <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	"Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"Andrew Cooper" <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	"Wei Liu" <wl@xen.org>,
	"George Dunlap" <george.dunlap@citrix.com>,
	"Julien Grall" <julien@xen.org>,
	"Stefano Stabellini" <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	"Paul Durrant" <paul@xen.org>,
	"Jun Nakajima" <jun.nakajima@intel.com>,
	"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86: switch to eager fpu save / restore
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2024 10:22:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0f956920-48a1-4934-9ded-6aeda2a51867@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240304091307.2295344-4-fouad.hilly@cloud.com>

On 04.03.2024 10:13, Fouad Hilly wrote:
> From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
> 
> Previously FPU is lazily switched. Due to the fact that a malicious
> guest can speculatively read the not yet switched out register states,
> we need to eagerly switch FPU states when a domain is scheduled to
> run.

The speculation aspect is already covered as of XSA-267, and hence imo
cannot be used as a justification here.

> In the new world, Xen will eagerly switch FPU context in the
> scheduler. Xen itself won't set CR0.TS other than for the purpose of
> servicing a PV guest.
> 
> The following things are done:
> 
> 1. Xen will only set and clear CR0.TS on behalf of a PV guest. Any #NM
>    received in Xen should only be delivered to the running PV guest.
> 
> 2. Xen no longer causes vmexit for #NM for HVM guests when nested HVM
>    is not in use.
> 
> 3. When nested HVM is in use, Xen needs to trap #NM if specified by
>    the L1 hypervisor, but all #NM handling is left to L1 hypervisor
>    to deal with.
> 
> 4. Xen saves and restores FPU states wherever it needs to. The
>    following places are modified:
>    1. Scheduling in and out a guest;
>    2. Calling EFI runtime service;
>    3. ACPI reset;
>    4. x86 insn emulator fpu insn emulation.
> 
> 5. Treat FPU as always initialised. Adjust following components:
>    1. HVM vcpu context save / load code;
>    2. arch_{get,set}_info_guest;
>    3. VLAPIC code.
> 
> 6. Delete lazy FPU handling code.

This wants splitting up. I'm actually puzzled that step 6 does not include
purging of e.g. opt_eager_fpu. Converting that to "always true" would seem
to be the one first step with a functional change. All further steps would
be removal of then-dead code.

> Strip XCR0 and IA32_XSS manipulation from __context_switch. We need to
> be able to zero out previously used state components. Push everything
> into fpu_xrstor as that's the most suitable place.
> 
> Tested on AMD with PKU disabled and Intel, no performance degradation.

I dare to at least question whether this is going to hold once we support
one of the huge state components (AMX patches have been pending for years).

Jan


  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-05  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-04  9:13 [PATCH 0/3] X86/eager-fpu: Switch to eager fpu save/restore Fouad Hilly
2024-03-04  9:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] x86: i387.c cleanup Fouad Hilly
2024-03-05  8:43   ` Jan Beulich
2024-03-04  9:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86: introduce xstate_zero Fouad Hilly
2024-03-05  9:06   ` Jan Beulich
2024-03-04  9:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86: switch to eager fpu save / restore Fouad Hilly
2024-03-05  9:22   ` Jan Beulich [this message]
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [PATCH 0/3] X86/eager-fpu: Switch to eager fpu save/restore Jan Beulich

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