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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>, "Kan Yan" <kyan@google.com>
Cc: linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net, ath10k@lists.infradead.org,
	John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>,
	Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>,
	Kevin Hayes <kevinhayes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] mac80211: Rearrange ieee80211_tx_info to make room for tx_time_est
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:21:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10b885b3238cede2d99c6134bebcc0c8ba6f6b10.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sgnqe4wg.fsf@toke.dk>

On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 12:15 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:

> However, there's a nice juicy 'u16 ack_frame_id' at the start of
> ieee80211_tx_info. Could we potentially use that? We could use the top
> bit as a disambiguation flag; I think we're fine with 15 bits for the TX
> time itself (a single packet won't exceed 8ms or TX time), so if we can
> live with 15 bits of ACK frame ID space, that could be a way forward?

I was going to say that should work as we only ever have a handful of
ACK frame IDs, but ... you still need the airtime even for a frame that
userspace wants to know the ACK status of, no?

We could pull the ack_frame_id out-of-line using the skb extensions
framework, but I'm not sure we should allocate one of the possible 8
extension IDs for that either ...

What we really should do is convert all (relevant) drivers to use rate
tables instead of having all the rates in the TX info, then we'd get a
lot of space, but that's a lot of work ...

johannes


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>, "Kan Yan" <kyan@google.com>
Cc: Rajkumar Manoharan <rmanohar@codeaurora.org>,
	Kevin Hayes <kevinhayes@google.com>,
	make-wifi-fast@lists.bufferbloat.net,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, ath10k@lists.infradead.org,
	John Crispin <john@phrozen.org>,
	Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@kernel.org>,
	Felix Fietkau <nbd@nbd.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] mac80211: Rearrange ieee80211_tx_info to make room for tx_time_est
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2019 14:21:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10b885b3238cede2d99c6134bebcc0c8ba6f6b10.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sgnqe4wg.fsf@toke.dk>

On Fri, 2019-10-18 at 12:15 +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:

> However, there's a nice juicy 'u16 ack_frame_id' at the start of
> ieee80211_tx_info. Could we potentially use that? We could use the top
> bit as a disambiguation flag; I think we're fine with 15 bits for the TX
> time itself (a single packet won't exceed 8ms or TX time), so if we can
> live with 15 bits of ACK frame ID space, that could be a way forward?

I was going to say that should work as we only ever have a handful of
ACK frame IDs, but ... you still need the airtime even for a frame that
userspace wants to know the ACK status of, no?

We could pull the ack_frame_id out-of-line using the skb extensions
framework, but I'm not sure we should allocate one of the possible 8
extension IDs for that either ...

What we really should do is convert all (relevant) drivers to use rate
tables instead of having all the rates in the TX info, then we'd get a
lot of space, but that's a lot of work ...

johannes


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-18 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-15 17:18 [PATCH v2 0/4] Add Airtime Queue Limits (AQL) to mac80211 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:18 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] mac80211: Rearrange ieee80211_tx_info to make room for tx_time_est Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:18   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18  0:50   ` Kan Yan
2019-10-18  0:50     ` Kan Yan
2019-10-18 10:15     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 10:15       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 12:21       ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2019-10-18 12:21         ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 13:31         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 13:31           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 13:48           ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 13:48             ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 14:01             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 14:01               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 14:07               ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 14:07                 ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 14:22                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 14:22                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 14:14               ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 14:14                 ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 14:30                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 14:30                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-18 12:35       ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 12:35         ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 13:01         ` Ben Greear
2019-10-18 13:01           ` Ben Greear
2019-10-15 17:18 ` [PATCH v2 2/4] mac80211: Import airtime calculation code from mt76 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:18   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:19 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] mac80211: Implement Airtime-based Queue Limit (AQL) Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:19   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:19 ` [PATCH v2 4/4] mac80211: Use Airtime-based Queue Limits (AQL) on packet dequeue Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-15 17:19   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-17  0:33   ` Kan Yan
2019-10-17  0:33     ` Kan Yan
2019-10-17  9:44     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-17  9:44       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-17  9:57       ` [Make-wifi-fast] " Sebastian Moeller
2019-10-17  9:57         ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-10-17 10:24         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-17 10:24           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-10-17 10:25           ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-10-17 10:25             ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-10-18  1:11             ` Kan Yan
2019-10-18  1:11               ` Kan Yan
2019-10-18 14:15               ` Johannes Berg
2019-10-18 14:15                 ` Johannes Berg

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