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From: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
To: "'Jason A. Donenfeld'" <Jason@zx2c4.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>,
	"Network Development" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Herbert Xu" <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	"Jean-Philippe Aumasson" <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com>,
	"Linux Crypto Mailing List" <linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH RFC v1 1/3] bpf: move from sha1 to blake2s in tag calculation
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2022 15:59:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <13d51088799746469d26a442fb3c6fd5@AcuMS.aculab.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHmME9oa8dAeRQfgj-U00gUtVOJ_CTGwtyBxUB4=8+XO_fFjNQ@mail.gmail.com>

From: Jason A. Donenfeld
> Sent: 14 January 2022 15:21
> 
> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 4:08 PM Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org> wrote:
> > Yeah, so the issue is that, at *some* point, SHA-1 is going to have to
> > go. So it would be helpful if Alexei could clarify *why* he doesn't
> > see this as a problem. The fact that it is broken means that it is no
> > longer intractable to forge collisions, which likley means that SHA-1
> > no longer fulfills the task that you wanted it to do in the first
> > place.
> 
> I think the reason that Alexei doesn't think that the SHA-1 choice
> really matters is because the result is being truncated to 64-bits, so
> collisions are easy anyway...

Which probably means that SHA-1 is complete overkill and something
much simpler could have been used instead.
Is the buffer even big enough to have ever warranted the massive
unrolling of the sha-1 function.
(I suspect that just destroys the I-cache on most cpu.)

The IPv6 address case seems even more insane - how many bytes
are actually being hashed.
The unrolled loop is only likely to be sane for large (megabyte)
buffers.

	David

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-14 15:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-12 13:12 [PATCH RFC v1 0/3] remove remaining users of SHA-1 Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 13:12 ` [PATCH RFC v1 1/3] bpf: move from sha1 to blake2s in tag calculation Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 22:56   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-13  1:33     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-13 12:27       ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-13 22:45         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-14  8:33           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-14 14:12           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-14 15:08             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-14 15:20               ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-14 15:36                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2022-01-14 15:59                 ` David Laight [this message]
2022-01-14 16:19               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-01-14 16:34                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-14 23:04     ` Jeffrey Walton
2022-01-12 13:12 ` [PATCH RFC v1 2/3] ipv6: move from sha1 to blake2s in address calculation Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 15:49   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 23:05   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-12 23:31     ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-13 11:15       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2022-01-13 12:06         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-13 12:22           ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-13 12:29             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-13 13:30           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-13 13:40             ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-13 13:45             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-13 13:50               ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-13 13:54                 ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-13 16:18                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-14 16:07         ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-14 16:57           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2022-01-14 17:41           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2022-01-14 17:58             ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 13:12 ` [PATCH RFC v1 3/3] crypto: sha1_generic - import lib/sha1.c locally Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-12 18:50 ` [PATCH RFC v1 0/3] remove remaining users of SHA-1 David Sterba
2022-01-12 18:57   ` Jason A. Donenfeld
2022-01-13  3:24 ` Sandy Harris
2022-01-13  8:08   ` Ard Biesheuvel
2022-01-13 17:28   ` Theodore Ts'o

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