From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@google.com>
Cc: linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
Mikhail Kurinnoi <viewizard@viewizard.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Make it practical to ship EVM signatures
Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2017 14:40:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1507574441.3748.40.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACdnJuvOW0Pc42Nuh4QVy4xdYsaUa=H9i=YZW+XB+bg-YnDCUQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 11:18 -0700, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-10-09 at 10:59 -0700, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> >> Ok, that makes sense. But for cases where we do have security.ima, the
> >> inode doesn't seem to provide additional security but does make
> >> deployment more difficult. Does supporting this use case seem
> >> reasonable?
> >
> > Yes!
>
> Excellent. This means defining a new signature type - the two options
> seem to be Mikhail's portable format, or the approach I took of having
> the signature define which metadata is included. Do you have a
> preference?
We now understand that as long as the EVM signature includes
security.ima, it is safe not to include the i_ino/uuid. This new
format can be written to disk.
Based on the previous discussions, Mikhail's patches never write the
portable EVM signature format to disk, but verify the signature,
before calculating and writing the HMAC. Based on our current
understanding that isn't required. The new EVM signature can be
written out.
Let's keep the change as simple as possible.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-09 18:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-27 22:16 RFC: Make it practical to ship EVM signatures Matthew Garrett
2017-09-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 1/6] IMA: Allow EVM validation on appraisal even without a symmetric key Matthew Garrett
2017-10-01 2:08 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 17:02 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-02 19:41 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 2/6] EVM: Add infrastructure for making EVM fields optional Matthew Garrett
2017-09-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 3/6] EVM: Allow userland to override the default EVM attributes Matthew Garrett
2017-09-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 4/6] EVM: Add an hmac_ng xattr format Matthew Garrett
2017-09-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 5/6] EVM: Write out HMAC xattrs in the new format Matthew Garrett
2017-09-27 22:16 ` [PATCH 6/6] EVM: Add a new digital signature format Matthew Garrett
2017-09-28 20:12 ` RFC: Make it practical to ship EVM signatures Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 21:13 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-09-29 0:53 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 18:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-09-29 19:02 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 19:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-09-29 20:01 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29 20:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-01 2:36 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 17:09 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-02 19:54 ` Mimi Zohar
[not found] ` <CACdnJutYw7Pgh-EwWuwp9Wz+5KzoreZVr+c6UV30zC__8FZSVA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <1506974574.5691.304.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-10-02 20:07 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-09 17:51 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-09 17:59 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-09 18:15 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-09 18:18 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-09 18:40 ` Mimi Zohar [this message]
[not found] ` <20171009232314.545de76a@totoro>
[not found] ` <1507583449.3748.46.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20171010003326.6409ae23@totoro>
2017-10-09 21:40 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-09 23:10 ` Mikhail Kurinnoi
2017-10-10 19:07 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-12 23:09 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2017-10-18 19:48 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2017-10-18 20:30 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-18 20:37 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2017-10-18 21:02 ` Mikhail Kurinnoi
2017-10-18 21:07 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-19 10:14 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2017-10-19 11:43 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-19 17:08 ` Matthew Garrett
2017-10-19 18:38 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2017-10-19 10:36 ` Dmitry Kasatkin
2017-10-19 11:45 ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 14:53 ` Roberto Sassu
2017-10-02 8:55 ` Roberto Sassu
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