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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Srinivas Kandagatla" <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	"Elliot Berman" <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	"Alex Elder" <elder@linaro.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Prakruthi Deepak Heragu" <quic_pheragu@quicinc.com>
Cc: "Murali Nalajala" <quic_mnalajal@quicinc.com>,
	"Trilok Soni" <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	"Srivatsa Vaddagiri" <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	"Carl van Schaik" <quic_cvanscha@quicinc.com>,
	"Dmitry Baryshkov" <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <andersson@kernel.org>,
	"Konrad Dybcio" <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Jassi Brar" <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 10/26] gunyah: vm_mgr: Introduce basic VM Manager
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 14:20:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15aa881f-5cf1-446e-a71e-f62d24e87500@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a50fa44d-fbc3-9ce2-175b-85c8cd7a9f7f@linaro.org>

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, at 11:29, Srinivas Kandagatla wrote:
> On 23/02/2023 22:40, Elliot Berman wrote:

>>>> Does this means adding #define GH_VM_DEFAULT_ARG 0 ? I am not sure 
>>>> yet what arguments to add here.
>>>>
>>>> The ABI can add new "long" values to GH_CREATE_VM and that wouldn't 
>>>
>>> Sorry, that is exactly what we want to avoid, we can not change the 
>>> UAPI its going to break the userspace.
>>>
>>>> break compatibility with old kernels; old kernels reject it as -EINVAL.
>>>
>>> If you have userspace built with older kernel headers then that will 
>>> break. Am not sure about old-kernels.
>>>
>>> What exactly is the argument that you want to add to GH_CREATE_VM?
>>>
>>> If you want to keep GH_CREATE_VM with no arguments that is fine but 
>>> remove the conflicting comments in the code and document so that its 
>>> not misleading readers/reviewers that the UAPI is going to be modified 
>>> in near future.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> The convention followed here comes from KVM_CREATE_VM. Is this ioctl 
>> considered bad example?
>> 
>
> It is recommended to only use _IO for commands without arguments, and 
> use pointers for passing data. Even though _IO can indicate either 
> commands with no argument or passing an integer value instead of a 
> pointer. Am really not sure how this works in compat case.
>
> Am sure there are tricks that can be done with just using _IO() macro 
> (ex vfio), but this does not mean that we should not use _IOW to be more 
> explicit on the type and size of argument that we are expecting.
>
> On the other hand If its really not possible to change this IOCTL to 
> _IOW and argument that you are referring would be with in integer range, 
> then what you have with _IO macro should work.

Passing an 'unsigned long' value instead of a pointer is fine for compat
mode, as a 32-bit compat_ulong_t always fits inside of the 64-bit
unsigned long. The downside is that portable code cannot have a
single ioctl handler function that takes both commands with pointers
and other commands with integer arguments, as some architectures
(i.e. s390, possibly arm64+morello in the future) need to mangle
pointer arguments using compat_ptr() but must not do that on integer
arguments.

     Arnd

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From: "Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>
To: "Srinivas Kandagatla" <srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org>,
	"Elliot Berman" <quic_eberman@quicinc.com>,
	"Alex Elder" <elder@linaro.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Prakruthi Deepak Heragu" <quic_pheragu@quicinc.com>
Cc: "Murali Nalajala" <quic_mnalajal@quicinc.com>,
	"Trilok Soni" <quic_tsoni@quicinc.com>,
	"Srivatsa Vaddagiri" <quic_svaddagi@quicinc.com>,
	"Carl van Schaik" <quic_cvanscha@quicinc.com>,
	"Dmitry Baryshkov" <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	"Bjorn Andersson" <andersson@kernel.org>,
	"Konrad Dybcio" <konrad.dybcio@linaro.org>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	"Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	"Jassi Brar" <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 10/26] gunyah: vm_mgr: Introduce basic VM Manager
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2023 14:20:40 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <15aa881f-5cf1-446e-a71e-f62d24e87500@app.fastmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a50fa44d-fbc3-9ce2-175b-85c8cd7a9f7f@linaro.org>

On Fri, Feb 24, 2023, at 11:29, Srinivas Kandagatla wrote:
> On 23/02/2023 22:40, Elliot Berman wrote:

>>>> Does this means adding #define GH_VM_DEFAULT_ARG 0 ? I am not sure 
>>>> yet what arguments to add here.
>>>>
>>>> The ABI can add new "long" values to GH_CREATE_VM and that wouldn't 
>>>
>>> Sorry, that is exactly what we want to avoid, we can not change the 
>>> UAPI its going to break the userspace.
>>>
>>>> break compatibility with old kernels; old kernels reject it as -EINVAL.
>>>
>>> If you have userspace built with older kernel headers then that will 
>>> break. Am not sure about old-kernels.
>>>
>>> What exactly is the argument that you want to add to GH_CREATE_VM?
>>>
>>> If you want to keep GH_CREATE_VM with no arguments that is fine but 
>>> remove the conflicting comments in the code and document so that its 
>>> not misleading readers/reviewers that the UAPI is going to be modified 
>>> in near future.
>>>
>>>
>> 
>> The convention followed here comes from KVM_CREATE_VM. Is this ioctl 
>> considered bad example?
>> 
>
> It is recommended to only use _IO for commands without arguments, and 
> use pointers for passing data. Even though _IO can indicate either 
> commands with no argument or passing an integer value instead of a 
> pointer. Am really not sure how this works in compat case.
>
> Am sure there are tricks that can be done with just using _IO() macro 
> (ex vfio), but this does not mean that we should not use _IOW to be more 
> explicit on the type and size of argument that we are expecting.
>
> On the other hand If its really not possible to change this IOCTL to 
> _IOW and argument that you are referring would be with in integer range, 
> then what you have with _IO macro should work.

Passing an 'unsigned long' value instead of a pointer is fine for compat
mode, as a 32-bit compat_ulong_t always fits inside of the 64-bit
unsigned long. The downside is that portable code cannot have a
single ioctl handler function that takes both commands with pointers
and other commands with integer arguments, as some architectures
(i.e. s390, possibly arm64+morello in the future) need to mangle
pointer arguments using compat_ptr() but must not do that on integer
arguments.

     Arnd

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Thread overview: 222+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-14 21:12 [PATCH v10 00/26] Drivers for Gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12 ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12 ` [PATCH v10 01/26] docs: gunyah: Introduce Gunyah Hypervisor Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 23:41   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 23:41     ` Alex Elder
2023-03-01  0:00     ` Elliot Berman
2023-03-01  0:00       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12 ` [PATCH v10 02/26] dt-bindings: Add binding for gunyah hypervisor Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12 ` [PATCH v10 03/26] gunyah: Common types and error codes for Gunyah hypercalls Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 21:58   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 21:58     ` Alex Elder
2023-03-02  1:40     ` Elliot Berman
2023-03-02  1:40       ` Elliot Berman
2023-03-02  7:18       ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-03-02  7:18         ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-14 21:12 ` [PATCH v10 04/26] virt: gunyah: Add hypercalls to identify Gunyah Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:12   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-20 13:59   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-20 13:59     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-24  0:09   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-24  0:09     ` Alex Elder
2023-03-02  1:21     ` Elliot Berman
2023-03-02  1:21       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:18 ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:18   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:21 ` [PATCH v10 05/26] virt: gunyah: Identify hypervisor version Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:21   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23 ` [PATCH v10 06/26] virt: gunyah: msgq: Add hypercalls to send and receive messages Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24  0:15   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-24  0:15     ` Alex Elder
2023-02-24 21:24     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 21:24       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23 ` [PATCH v10 07/26] mailbox: Add Gunyah message queue mailbox Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16  4:07   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-16  4:07     ` kernel test robot
2023-02-20 13:59   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-20 13:59     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23  0:15     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23  0:15       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 10:25       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 10:25         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 23:15         ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 23:15           ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24  7:49           ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-24  7:49             ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 18:24   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 18:24     ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 21:11   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 21:11     ` Alex Elder
2023-02-24 21:57     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 21:57       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23 ` [PATCH v10 08/26] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add resource manager RPC core Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16  6:43   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16  6:43     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16 17:40     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16 17:40       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-17  7:37       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-17  7:37         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-22 22:52         ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-22 22:52           ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-20 18:10   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-20 18:10     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-22 23:18     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-22 23:18       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 10:29       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 10:29         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 23:13         ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 23:13           ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-28  0:52           ` Alex Elder
2023-02-28  0:52             ` Alex Elder
2023-02-28 22:49             ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-28 22:49               ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 23:28   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 23:28     ` Alex Elder
2023-02-24 22:39     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 22:39       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23 ` [PATCH v10 09/26] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add VM lifecycle RPC Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16  6:39   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16  6:39     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16 17:18     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16 17:18       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-21  7:50   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21  7:50     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 21:36   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 21:36     ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 23:10     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 23:10       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23 ` [PATCH v10 10/26] gunyah: vm_mgr: Introduce basic VM Manager Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:23   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-21 10:46   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 10:46     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-22  0:27     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-22  0:27       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 10:08       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 10:08         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23 22:40         ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 22:40           ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 10:29           ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-24 10:29             ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-24 13:20             ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2023-02-24 13:20               ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-24 22:48               ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 22:48                 ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-28  1:06                 ` Alex Elder
2023-02-28  1:06                   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-28  9:19                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-28  9:19                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2023-02-21 13:06   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 13:06     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-14 21:24 ` [PATCH v10 11/26] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add RPC for sharing memory Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-21 11:07   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 11:07     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-14 21:24 ` [PATCH v10 12/26] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add/remove user memory regions Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16  6:38   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16  6:38     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16 17:24     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16 17:24       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-21 12:28   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 12:28     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 12:43     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 12:43       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-24  0:43     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24  0:43       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 10:36       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-24 10:36         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 12:45   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 12:45     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-24  0:34   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-24  0:34     ` Alex Elder
2023-02-25  1:03     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-25  1:03       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 10:19   ` Fuad Tabba
2023-02-24 10:19     ` Fuad Tabba
2023-02-24 18:08     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 18:08       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 18:58       ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-24 18:58         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-02-27  9:55       ` Fuad Tabba
2023-02-27  9:55         ` Fuad Tabba
2023-02-14 21:24 ` [PATCH v10 13/26] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add ioctls to support basic non-proxy VM boot Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16  6:35   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16  6:35     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2023-02-16 17:20     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16 17:20       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-20  9:15   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-20  9:15     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-20  9:54     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-20  9:54       ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 13:06   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 13:06     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 14:17   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 14:17     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23  0:50     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23  0:50       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23  9:21       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23  9:21         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-14 21:24 ` [PATCH v10 14/26] samples: Add sample userspace Gunyah VM Manager Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24 ` [PATCH v10 15/26] gunyah: rsc_mgr: Add platform ops on mem_lend/mem_reclaim Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-21 14:51   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 14:51     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 21:22     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-21 21:22       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-22 10:21       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-22 10:21         ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-23  1:55         ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23  1:55           ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24 ` [PATCH v10 16/26] firmware: qcom_scm: Register Gunyah platform ops Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:24   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-16  0:22   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-16  0:22     ` kernel test robot
2023-02-16 11:09   ` kernel test robot
2023-02-16 11:09     ` kernel test robot
2023-02-21 14:55   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 14:55     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-14 21:25 ` [PATCH v10 17/26] docs: gunyah: Document Gunyah VM Manager Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:25   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 23:55   ` Alex Elder
2023-02-23 23:55     ` Alex Elder
2023-02-14 21:25 ` [PATCH v10 18/26] virt: gunyah: Translate gh_rm_hyp_resource into gunyah_resource Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:25   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-21 17:47   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 17:47     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-14 21:25 ` [PATCH v10 19/26] gunyah: vm_mgr: Add framework to add VM Functions Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:25   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-17 13:23   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-17 13:23     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 13:07   ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 13:07     ` Srivatsa Vaddagiri
2023-02-21 17:58     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-21 17:58       ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-22 14:08   ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-22 14:08     ` Srinivas Kandagatla
2023-02-24 23:44     ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-24 23:44       ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:25 ` [PATCH v10 20/26] virt: gunyah: Add resource tickets Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:25   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:25 ` [PATCH v10 21/26] virt: gunyah: Add IO handlers Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:25   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26 ` [PATCH v10 22/26] virt: gunyah: Add proxy-scheduled vCPUs Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26 ` [PATCH v10 23/26] virt: gunyah: Add hypercalls for sending doorbell Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26 ` [PATCH v10 24/26] virt: gunyah: Add irqfd interface Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26 ` [PATCH v10 25/26] virt: gunyah: Add ioeventfd Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26 ` [PATCH v10 26/26] MAINTAINERS: Add Gunyah hypervisor drivers section Elliot Berman
2023-02-14 21:26   ` Elliot Berman
2023-02-23 21:59 ` [PATCH v10 00/26] Drivers for Gunyah hypervisor Alex Elder
2023-02-23 21:59   ` Alex Elder

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