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From: antlists <antlists@youngman.org.uk>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>, Danny Shih <dannyshih@synology.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, agk@redhat.com, snitzer@redhat.com,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, song@kernel.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] block: introduce submit_bio_noacct_add_head
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:53:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b6c4709-8409-a73f-d3f0-4b4cf19bfae1@youngman.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24556.45969.276771.345181@quad.stoffel.home>

On 30/12/2020 17:06, John Stoffel wrote:
> Danny> "Provide a way for stacking block device to re-submit
> 
> Danny> the bio which should be handled first."
> 
> Danny> I will fix it.
> 
> Great, though my second question is*why*  it needs to be handled
> first?  What is the difference between stacked and un-stacked devices
> and how could it be done in a way that doesn't require a seperate
> function like this?

Is this anything to do with what's on my mind as a database guy? I've 
heard that things like RAID and LVM have difficulty providing write 
barriers.

I want to be confident that, at EVERY level of the stack, I can put a 
barrier in that guarantees that everything written by user-space BEFORE 
the barrier is handled before anything written AFTER the barrier. That 
way, I can be confident that, after a problem, I know whether I can 
safely roll the log forward or back.

Cheers,
Wol

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From: antlists <antlists@youngman.org.uk>
To: John Stoffel <john@stoffel.org>, Danny Shih <dannyshih@synology.com>
Cc: axboe@kernel.dk, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, snitzer@redhat.com,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, song@kernel.org,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, agk@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block: introduce submit_bio_noacct_add_head
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 17:53:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b6c4709-8409-a73f-d3f0-4b4cf19bfae1@youngman.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <24556.45969.276771.345181@quad.stoffel.home>

On 30/12/2020 17:06, John Stoffel wrote:
> Danny> "Provide a way for stacking block device to re-submit
> 
> Danny> the bio which should be handled first."
> 
> Danny> I will fix it.
> 
> Great, though my second question is*why*  it needs to be handled
> first?  What is the difference between stacked and un-stacked devices
> and how could it be done in a way that doesn't require a seperate
> function like this?

Is this anything to do with what's on my mind as a database guy? I've 
heard that things like RAID and LVM have difficulty providing write 
barriers.

I want to be confident that, at EVERY level of the stack, I can put a 
barrier in that guarantees that everything written by user-space BEFORE 
the barrier is handled before anything written AFTER the barrier. That 
way, I can be confident that, after a problem, I know whether I can 
safely roll the log forward or back.

Cheers,
Wol

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-30 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-29  9:18 [PATCH 0/4] Fix order when split bio and send remaining back to itself dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18 ` [dm-devel] " dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18 ` [PATCH 1/4] block: introduce submit_bio_noacct_add_head dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18   ` [dm-devel] " dannyshih
2020-12-30  0:00   ` John Stoffel
2020-12-30  0:00     ` [dm-devel] " John Stoffel
2020-12-30  9:51     ` Danny Shih
2020-12-30  9:51       ` [dm-devel] " Danny Shih
2020-12-30 17:06       ` John Stoffel
2020-12-30 17:06         ` [dm-devel] " John Stoffel
2020-12-30 17:53         ` antlists [this message]
2020-12-30 17:53           ` antlists
2020-12-30 11:35     ` antlists
2020-12-30 11:35       ` [dm-devel] " antlists
2020-12-30 16:53       ` John Stoffel
2020-12-30 16:53         ` [dm-devel] " John Stoffel
2020-12-29  9:18 ` [PATCH 2/4] block: use submit_bio_noacct_add_head for split bio sending back dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18   ` [dm-devel] " dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18 ` [PATCH 3/4] dm: " dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18   ` [dm-devel] " dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18 ` [PATCH 4/4] md: " dannyshih
2020-12-29  9:18   ` [dm-devel] " dannyshih
2020-12-30 23:34 ` [PATCH 0/4] Fix order when split bio and send remaining back to itself Mike Snitzer
2020-12-30 23:34   ` [dm-devel] " Mike Snitzer
2020-12-31  8:28   ` Danny Shih
2020-12-31  8:28     ` [dm-devel] " Danny Shih

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