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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org, dm-devel@redhat.com,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, dpshah@google.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com,
	mikew@google.com, fchecconi@gmail.com, paolo.valente@unimore.it,
	ryov@valinux.co.jp, fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp,
	s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com, taka@valinux.co.jp,
	guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com, jmoyer@redhat.com,
	dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	righi.andrea@gmail.com, m-ikeda@ds.jp.nec.com, jbaron@redhat.com,
	agk@redhat.com, snitzer@redhat.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	peterz@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/20] io-controller: Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:00:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528160003.GA4335@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e98e18940905271353kc6890dbxa1ea63026c8faec1@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:53:59PM -0700, Nauman Rafique wrote:

[..]
> > +/**
> > + * __bfq_lookup_next_entity - return the first eligible entity in @st.
> > + * @st: the service tree.
> > + *
> > + * Update the virtual time in @st and return the first eligible entity
> > + * it contains.
> > + */
> > +static struct io_entity *__bfq_lookup_next_entity(struct io_service_tree *st)
> > +{
> > +       struct io_entity *entity;
> > +
> > +       if (RB_EMPTY_ROOT(&st->active))
> > +               return NULL;
> > +
> > +       bfq_update_vtime(st);
> 
> Vivek, Paolo, Fabio,
> Over here we call bfq_update_vtime(), and this function could have
> been called even when we are just doing a lookup (and not an extract).
> So vtime is updated while we are not really selecting the next queue
> for service (for an example, see elv_preempt_queue()). This can result
> in a call to update_vtime when only an entity with small weight (say
> weight=1) is backlogged and another entity with bigger weight (say 10)
> is getting serviced so it is not in the tree (we extract the entity
> which is getting service). This results in a big vtime jump to the
> start time of the entity with weight 1 (entity of weight 1 would have
> big start times, as it has small weight). Now when another entity with
> bigger weight (say 90) gets backlogged, it is assigned a new vtime
> from service tree's vtime, causing it to get a big value. In the
> meanwhile, iog for weight 10 keeps getting service for many quantums,
> as it was continuously backlogged.
> 
> The problem happens because we extract an entity (removing it from the
> tree) while it is getting service, and do vtime jumps based on what is
> still in the tree. I think we need to add an extra check on the vtime
> of the entity in service, before we take a vtime jump.
> 
> I have actually seen this happening when trying to debug on of my
> tests. Please let me know what you think.
> 

Hi Nauman,

This sounds like a problem but apart from elv_preempt_queue(), in which path
do you see it?

Initially fabio posted the patches where preemption was allowed only if
the preempting queue is the next one to be served. To keep the behavior
same as CFQ, I have changed that logic and if we decide to preempt the
current queue (based on many checks like sync or async), I expire the
current queue and add the new queue to the front of the service tree so
that it is selected next. It does impact the fairness a bit but that's how
cfq does it today and concept of preemption with-in same prio class is
somewhat peculiar.

So in latest patches preemption path is covered. There does not seem to be
other paths where we do lookups while and active entity is being served.
For example, update_next_active() does not continue with lookup if there
is an active entity. So with this version of patch, you should not face
the issue.

In general, I think it is a good idea to fix it in update_vtime() so
that not to udpate vtime if there is an active entity and not rely on 
caller who makes sure that update_vtime() is not called when there is
an active entity. Do you have a quick patch for that?

Thanks
Vivek

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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Nauman Rafique <nauman@google.com>
Cc: dhaval@linux.vnet.ibm.com, snitzer@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, dm-devel@redhat.com, dpshah@google.com,
	jens.axboe@oracle.com, agk@redhat.com, balbir@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	paolo.valente@unimore.it, guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com,
	fernando@oss.ntt.co.jp, mikew@google.com, jmoyer@redhat.com,
	m-ikeda@ds.jp.nec.com, lizf@cn.fujitsu.com, fchecconi@gmail.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, s-uchida@ap.jp.nec.com,
	righi.andrea@gmail.com, jbaron@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/20] io-controller: Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer
Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 12:00:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090528160003.GA4335@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e98e18940905271353kc6890dbxa1ea63026c8faec1@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 01:53:59PM -0700, Nauman Rafique wrote:

[..]
> > +/**
> > + * __bfq_lookup_next_entity - return the first eligible entity in @st.
> > + * @st: the service tree.
> > + *
> > + * Update the virtual time in @st and return the first eligible entity
> > + * it contains.
> > + */
> > +static struct io_entity *__bfq_lookup_next_entity(struct io_service_tree *st)
> > +{
> > +       struct io_entity *entity;
> > +
> > +       if (RB_EMPTY_ROOT(&st->active))
> > +               return NULL;
> > +
> > +       bfq_update_vtime(st);
> 
> Vivek, Paolo, Fabio,
> Over here we call bfq_update_vtime(), and this function could have
> been called even when we are just doing a lookup (and not an extract).
> So vtime is updated while we are not really selecting the next queue
> for service (for an example, see elv_preempt_queue()). This can result
> in a call to update_vtime when only an entity with small weight (say
> weight=1) is backlogged and another entity with bigger weight (say 10)
> is getting serviced so it is not in the tree (we extract the entity
> which is getting service). This results in a big vtime jump to the
> start time of the entity with weight 1 (entity of weight 1 would have
> big start times, as it has small weight). Now when another entity with
> bigger weight (say 90) gets backlogged, it is assigned a new vtime
> from service tree's vtime, causing it to get a big value. In the
> meanwhile, iog for weight 10 keeps getting service for many quantums,
> as it was continuously backlogged.
> 
> The problem happens because we extract an entity (removing it from the
> tree) while it is getting service, and do vtime jumps based on what is
> still in the tree. I think we need to add an extra check on the vtime
> of the entity in service, before we take a vtime jump.
> 
> I have actually seen this happening when trying to debug on of my
> tests. Please let me know what you think.
> 

Hi Nauman,

This sounds like a problem but apart from elv_preempt_queue(), in which path
do you see it?

Initially fabio posted the patches where preemption was allowed only if
the preempting queue is the next one to be served. To keep the behavior
same as CFQ, I have changed that logic and if we decide to preempt the
current queue (based on many checks like sync or async), I expire the
current queue and add the new queue to the front of the service tree so
that it is selected next. It does impact the fairness a bit but that's how
cfq does it today and concept of preemption with-in same prio class is
somewhat peculiar.

So in latest patches preemption path is covered. There does not seem to be
other paths where we do lookups while and active entity is being served.
For example, update_next_active() does not continue with lookup if there
is an active entity. So with this version of patch, you should not face
the issue.

In general, I think it is a good idea to fix it in update_vtime() so
that not to udpate vtime if there is an active entity and not rely on 
caller who makes sure that update_vtime() is not called when there is
an active entity. Do you have a quick patch for that?

Thanks
Vivek

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-28 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 160+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-26 22:41 [RFC] IO scheduler based IO controller V3 Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41 ` [PATCH 01/20] io-controller: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 15:42   ` Balbir Singh
2009-05-29 15:42     ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]     ` <20090529154252.GD5587-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 15:53       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 15:53     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 15:53       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1243377729-2176-2-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 15:42     ` Balbir Singh
2009-05-26 22:41 ` [PATCH 03/20] io-controller: Charge for time slice based on average disk rate Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41 ` [PATCH 04/20] io-controller: Modify cfq to make use of flat elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41 ` [PATCH 05/20] io-controller: Common hierarchical fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-05  9:36   ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-05  9:36     ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]     ` <4A28E710.5080307-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 13:21       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-05 13:21     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-05 13:21       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1243377729-2176-6-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05  9:36     ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-26 22:41 ` [PATCH 07/20] io-controller: Export disk time used and nr sectors dipatched through cgroups Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41 ` [PATCH 08/20] io-controller: idle for sometime on sync queue before expiring it Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41 ` [PATCH 10/20] io-conroller: Prepare elevator layer for single queue schedulers Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-05  9:17   ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-05  9:17     ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]     ` <4A28E293.90402-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05 13:22       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-05 13:22     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-05 13:22       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1243377729-2176-11-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-05  9:17     ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 11/20] io-controller: noop changes for hierarchical fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 12/20] io-controller: deadline " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 13/20] io-controller: anticipatory " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 14/20] blkio_cgroup patches from Ryo to track async bios Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 15/20] io-controller: map async requests to appropriate cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-28  9:27   ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-28  9:27     ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-28 16:57     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-28 16:57       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-28 18:04       ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-28 18:04         ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]       ` <20090528165710.GB4335-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29  3:17         ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-29  3:17       ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-29  3:17         ` Ryo Tsuruta
     [not found]         ` <20090529.121737.189708024.ryov-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 13:38           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 13:38         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 13:38           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-01 11:25           ` Ryo Tsuruta
     [not found]           ` <20090529133804.GA26962-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-01 11:25             ` Ryo Tsuruta
     [not found]     ` <20090528.182740.193697101.ryov-jCdQPDEk3idL9jVzuh4AOg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 16:57       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1243377729-2176-16-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  9:27     ` Ryo Tsuruta
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 16/20] io-controller: IO group refcounting support Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]   ` <1243377729-2176-17-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-08  2:03     ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-08  2:03       ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-08 13:53       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-08 13:53         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <4A2C716C.8070808-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-08 13:53         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 17/20] io-controller: Per cgroup request descriptor support Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 18/20] io-controller: Support per cgroup per device weights and io class Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found] ` <1243377729-2176-1-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 01/20] io-controller: Documentation Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 02/20] io-controller: Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-27 20:53     ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-27 20:53       ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-28  8:52       ` Fabio Checconi
2009-05-28 16:00       ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2009-05-28 16:00         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20090528160003.GA4335-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28 19:41           ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-28 19:41         ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-28 19:41           ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-29 16:06           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 16:06             ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 16:57             ` Fabio Checconi
2009-05-29 19:06               ` Nauman Rafique
2009-05-29 19:06                 ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]                 ` <e98e18940905291206p2e05bc5cxf499479270e34074-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 19:16                   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 19:16                 ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-29 19:16                   ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]               ` <20090529165716.GB18141-f9ZlEuEWxVeACYmtYXMKmw@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 19:06                 ` Nauman Rafique
     [not found]             ` <20090529160610.GC26962-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 16:57               ` Fabio Checconi
     [not found]           ` <e98e18940905281241v4aa24716j91f351a828af604a-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-29 16:06             ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <e98e18940905271353kc6890dbxa1ea63026c8faec1-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-28  8:52         ` Fabio Checconi
2009-05-28 16:00         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <1243377729-2176-3-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-05-27 20:53       ` Nauman Rafique
2009-06-08  1:08       ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-08  7:44       ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-08  7:44         ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-08 13:56         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-08 13:56           ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <4A2CC15F.2010708-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-08 13:56           ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-08  1:08     ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-06-08 12:58       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-08 12:58         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <4A2C649C.8070806-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-08 12:58         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 03/20] io-controller: Charge for time slice based on average disk rate Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 04/20] io-controller: Modify cfq to make use of flat elevator fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 05/20] io-controller: Common hierarchical fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 06/20] io-controller: cfq changes to use " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 07/20] io-controller: Export disk time used and nr sectors dipatched through cgroups Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 08/20] io-controller: idle for sometime on sync queue before expiring it Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 09/20] io-controller: Separate out queue and data Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:41   ` [PATCH 10/20] io-conroller: Prepare elevator layer for single queue schedulers Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 11/20] io-controller: noop changes for hierarchical fair queuing Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 12/20] io-controller: deadline " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 13/20] io-controller: anticipatory " Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 14/20] blkio_cgroup patches from Ryo to track async bios Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 15/20] io-controller: map async requests to appropriate cgroup Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 16/20] io-controller: IO group refcounting support Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 17/20] io-controller: Per cgroup request descriptor support Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 18/20] io-controller: Support per cgroup per device weights and io class Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 19/20] io-controller: Debug hierarchical IO scheduling Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` [PATCH 20/20] io-controller: experimental debug patch for async queue wait before expiry Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 19/20] io-controller: Debug hierarchical IO scheduling Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42 ` [PATCH 20/20] io-controller: experimental debug patch for async queue wait before expiry Vivek Goyal
2009-05-26 22:42   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-19 20:37 [RFC] IO scheduler based io controller (V5) Vivek Goyal
2009-06-19 20:37 ` [PATCH 02/20] io-controller: Common flat fair queuing code in elevaotor layer Vivek Goyal
2009-06-19 20:37   ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-22  8:46   ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-22  8:46     ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-22 12:43     ` Fabio Checconi
     [not found]       ` <20090622124313.GF28770-f9ZlEuEWxVeACYmtYXMKmw@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-23  2:43         ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-23  2:43       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-23  2:43         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]         ` <20090623024337.GC3620-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-23  4:10           ` Fabio Checconi
2009-06-23  4:10             ` Fabio Checconi
2009-06-23  7:32             ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-23  7:32               ` Balbir Singh
     [not found]               ` <20090623073252.GJ8642-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-23 13:42                 ` Fabio Checconi
2009-06-23 13:42               ` Fabio Checconi
     [not found]             ` <20090623041052.GS28770-f9ZlEuEWxVeACYmtYXMKmw@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-23  7:32               ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-23  2:05     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-23  2:05       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]       ` <20090623020515.GA3620-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-23  2:20         ` Jeff Moyer
2009-06-23  2:20           ` Jeff Moyer
     [not found]     ` <20090622084612.GD3728-SINUvgVNF2CyUtPGxGje5AC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 12:43       ` Fabio Checconi
2009-06-23  2:05       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-06-30  6:40   ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-07-01  1:28     ` Vivek Goyal
2009-07-01  1:28       ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]     ` <4A49B364.5000508-BthXqXjhjHXQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-01  1:28       ` Vivek Goyal
2009-07-01  9:24   ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found]   ` <1245443858-8487-3-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22  8:46     ` Balbir Singh
2009-06-30  6:40     ` Gui Jianfeng
2009-07-01  9:24     ` Gui Jianfeng
     [not found] ` <1245443858-8487-1-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 20:37   ` Vivek Goyal

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