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From: Ted Ts'o <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
To: tridge-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org
Cc: Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Jeremy Allison <jra-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-cifs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-nfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Volker.Lendecke-3ekOc4rQMZmzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org,
	samba-technical-w/Ol4Ecudpl8XjKLYN78aQ@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh-nopoi9nDyk+ELgA04lAiVw@public.gmane.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-ext4-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:21:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100723012130.GD16373@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19528.60019.28495.655512-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:03:47AM +1000, tridge-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org wrote:
> 
> The other big difference from POSIX timestamps is that the
> CreationTime is settable on Windows, and some of the windows UI
> behaviour relies on this.

Well, not POSIX, because POSIX doesn't have CreationTime at all.
BSD's birthtime doesn't allow it to be set, and the question here is
largely philosophical.  Does it literally mean "file creation time" in
terms of when the OS created the file, or does it mean "file" in the
sense of application contents.  For example, if an application edits
the file and saves it out using "write file to foo.new; sync; rename
foo to foo.bak; rename foo.new to foo", should the creation time for
the newly written file "foo" be the time when the editor saved out the
file (i.e., when "foo.new" was created), or copied from the original
file "foo"'s creation time.

This is something (whether or not the application is allowed to set
the creation time) that I think makes sense to be either a filesystem
level mount option, or superblock tunable, or even a per-process
personality flag.

However, I think Linus's idea of using a per-process flag to control
whether or not "ctime" has the original POSIX semantics or some new
"creation time" semantics would lead to a huge amount of confusion.
Given that a number of new filesystems, including both ext4 and btrfs,
have creation time, it makes sense for us to have a fourth timestamp.
Whether or not our creation time is settable or not is a separate
question, and I don't think we need to follow BSD's lead on this.  If
GNOME and/or KDE applications start using it, I could see this
becoming that gets wide adoption fairly quickly.

						- Ted

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From: "Ted Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
To: tridge@samba.org
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jeremy Allison <jra@samba.org>,
	linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Volker.Lendecke@sernet.de, samba-technical@lists.samba.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available [ver #6]
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 21:21:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100723012130.GD16373@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19528.60019.28495.655512@samba.org>

On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:03:47AM +1000, tridge@samba.org wrote:
> 
> The other big difference from POSIX timestamps is that the
> CreationTime is settable on Windows, and some of the windows UI
> behaviour relies on this.

Well, not POSIX, because POSIX doesn't have CreationTime at all.
BSD's birthtime doesn't allow it to be set, and the question here is
largely philosophical.  Does it literally mean "file creation time" in
terms of when the OS created the file, or does it mean "file" in the
sense of application contents.  For example, if an application edits
the file and saves it out using "write file to foo.new; sync; rename
foo to foo.bak; rename foo.new to foo", should the creation time for
the newly written file "foo" be the time when the editor saved out the
file (i.e., when "foo.new" was created), or copied from the original
file "foo"'s creation time.

This is something (whether or not the application is allowed to set
the creation time) that I think makes sense to be either a filesystem
level mount option, or superblock tunable, or even a per-process
personality flag.

However, I think Linus's idea of using a per-process flag to control
whether or not "ctime" has the original POSIX semantics or some new
"creation time" semantics would lead to a huge amount of confusion.
Given that a number of new filesystems, including both ext4 and btrfs,
have creation time, it makes sense for us to have a fourth timestamp.
Whether or not our creation time is settable or not is a separate
question, and I don't think we need to follow BSD's lead on this.  If
GNOME and/or KDE applications start using it, I could see this
becoming that gets wide adoption fairly quickly.

						- Ted


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-23  1:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 263+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-15  2:17 [PATCH 00/18] Extended file stat functions [ver #6] David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 01/18] Mark arguments to certain syscalls as being const " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15 20:35   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-15 20:35     ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]   ` <201007152235.22373.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15 21:53     ` David Howells
2010-07-15 21:53       ` David Howells
2010-07-16 10:24       ` David Howells
     [not found]         ` <8527.1279275842-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-16 11:02           ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-16 11:02             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` <201007161302.35775.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-16 12:38           ` David Howells
2010-07-16 12:38             ` David Howells
     [not found]             ` <10677.1279283886-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-16 13:32               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-16 13:32                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-17  5:51               ` Mark Harris
2010-07-17  5:51                 ` Mark Harris
2010-07-17  9:00                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <20100717055130.GA2053-EJgEOVOPJGBzbRFIqnYvSA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-17  9:49               ` David Howells
2010-07-17  9:49                 ` David Howells
2010-07-17  9:49                 ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <30646.1279230807-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-16 10:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-07-16 10:46           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]       ` <201007161246.15923.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-16 15:10         ` David Howells
2010-07-16 15:10           ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <20100715021712.5544.44845.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-16  6:22         ` Mark Harris
2010-07-16  6:22           ` Mark Harris
2010-07-18  8:48         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-18  8:48           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-22 10:52           ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007221248050.9353-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 12:25             ` David Howells
2010-07-22 12:25               ` David Howells
2010-07-22 10:35         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 10:35           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-19 14:05   ` David Howells
2010-07-19 15:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 15:17     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 15:17     ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]   ` <AANLkTikuzYqYpGHcubb7QVciZW0dNFjOG82qIwy5M4gO-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-19 16:15     ` David Howells
2010-07-19 16:15       ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <10783.1279556132-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-19 16:51         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 16:51           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 16:51           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]       ` <AANLkTinVns77R7yCCh-lydd0eQufdAF9O2OaWmCL7uSn-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-19 17:26         ` David Howells
2010-07-19 17:26           ` David Howells
     [not found]           ` <11817.1279560400-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-19 17:46             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 17:46               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-19 17:46               ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTikxHJgguNn6EOK6fX53xYSRPmcNjIeGSTigQ9qu-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-20  8:28                 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-20  8:28                   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-22 12:14   ` David Howells
2010-07-22 12:14     ` David Howells
2010-07-22 12:17     ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 12:17       ` Volker Lendecke
     [not found]       ` <E1Obuiy-00C9jr-Al-dqLtpHMqGvUyWpdLl23E4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 13:05         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 13:05           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 15:14         ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 15:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 15:14           ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]           ` <AANLkTikBCXK6uEwWq4f0LvpdoKCPs3jvyFa4Zw4e2J_7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 15:36             ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 15:36               ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 15:47               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 15:47                 ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                 ` <AANLkTimwIq0pBhCeOjOVjB0yeM3JHOvzVoj9M4ui6al9-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 16:06                   ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:06                     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:06                     ` Greg Freemyer
     [not found]                     ` <AANLkTimsjARdMfnvFRSyy6gakCtVhGRBbyauVTc_Cuwt-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 16:07                       ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:07                         ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:07                         ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 16:27                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 16:27                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 16:40                     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 16:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 16:40                       ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                       ` <AANLkTimdFCGSKLn7aGMpBMIauHTsHY7hpAAmpo6uTcnD-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 16:58                         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-22 16:58                           ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                           ` <1279817930.3621.14.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:02                             ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:02                               ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:04                               ` Volker Lendecke
2010-07-22 18:04                                 ` Volker Lendecke
     [not found]                                 ` <E1Oc08W-00CZuz-Ns-dqLtpHMqGvUyWpdLl23E4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:07                                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:07                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:59                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-30 17:55                                   ` Phil Pishioneri
2010-07-30 18:11                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-30 18:19                                       ` Phil Pishioneri
     [not found]                                       ` <1280513506.12852.22.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-31 18:41                                         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-31 18:41                                           ` Andreas Dilger
     [not found]                                           ` <09B770A6-48DB-4296-B6C2-BF46D4DC7E57-m1MBpc4rdrD3fQ9qLvQP4Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-31 18:48                                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-31 18:48                                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-31 19:03                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-31 19:03                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-07-31 21:20                                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-08-01 13:17                                         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-01 13:17                                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-07-22 18:05                               ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                                 ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007222004430.4215-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:07                                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:07                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:07                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 19:18                               ` John Stoffel
2010-07-22 19:18                                 ` John Stoffel
2010-07-22 17:03                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 17:03                           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 17:16                           ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                             ` <1279818967.3621.23.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 17:36                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 17:36                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                           ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007221859180.27496-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 17:24                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 17:24                               ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 17:24                               ` Linus Torvalds
     [not found]                               ` <AANLkTilmVdyVdO4EmVtTYi_cvMmPqNEPEnzUkJdk1XyR-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 18:15                                 ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:15                                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-07-22 18:41                                 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 18:41                                   ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 18:41                                   ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 18:21                               ` Benny Halevy
2010-07-22 18:45                                 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 18:45                                   ` Greg Freemyer
2010-07-22 19:53                                   ` Benny Halevy
2010-07-28  1:15                               ` Neil Brown
2010-07-28 17:28                               ` David Howells
2010-07-28 23:04                                 ` Neil Brown
2010-07-30 18:38                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-01 13:40                                   ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-01 13:40                                     ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-02 14:09                                     ` Greg Freemyer
2010-08-02 14:09                                       ` Greg Freemyer
     [not found]                                       ` <AANLkTi=JvwrwpmteFcXW1f5s95+_w_iCT+04Sy7bbTtR-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-02 14:42                                         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-02 14:42                                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-07-29 16:15                                 ` David Howells
     [not found]                                   ` <319.1280420115-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-03  1:13                                     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-03  1:13                                       ` Neil Brown
2010-07-22 17:12                         ` Jim Rees
2010-07-22 17:12                           ` Jim Rees
2010-07-22 17:32                           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 17:32                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-22 17:32                             ` Linus Torvalds
2010-07-30 21:22                         ` utz lehmann
2010-07-30 21:22                           ` utz lehmann
     [not found]                           ` <1280524978.2452.9.camel-mrvVnycP54q9CgvvYfeeSAlEImK53Lvc@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-31  8:08                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-31  8:08                               ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                               ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007311006070.19122-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-31 14:43                                 ` utz lehmann
2010-07-31 14:43                                   ` utz lehmann
2010-07-31 16:53                             ` David Howells
2010-07-31 16:53                               ` David Howells
     [not found]                               ` <3533.1280595212-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-31 18:05                                 ` utz lehmann
2010-07-31 18:05                                   ` utz lehmann
     [not found]                               ` <1280599521.2720.5.camel-mrvVnycP54q9CgvvYfeeSAlEImK53Lvc@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-31 19:26                                 ` David Howells
2010-07-31 19:26                                   ` David Howells
2010-08-01 13:25                             ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-01 13:25                               ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                               ` <20100801092529.5e6ba0e0-4QP7MXygkU+dMjc06nkz3ljfA9RmPOcC@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-05 23:52                                 ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-05 23:52                                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-06  3:38                                   ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06  3:38                                     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06  3:55                                     ` Steve French
2010-08-06  3:55                                       ` Steve French
2010-08-06  3:55                                       ` Steve French
     [not found]                                       ` <AANLkTinVCLVpqLtA2X=1mOkxX7Re61_ZYsUix_XTvZ5D-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-06 11:18                                         ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-06 11:18                                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-06 23:30                                         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06 23:30                                           ` Neil Brown
2010-08-06 23:58                                           ` Steve French
2010-08-06 23:58                                             ` Steve French
2010-08-06 23:58                                             ` Steve French
     [not found]                                             ` <AANLkTikDBg5Brt=55Tsu8ozk0aVx=srpxP=U-sFqeBYL-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-07  0:29                                               ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07  0:29                                                 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07  2:42                                                 ` Steve French
2010-08-07  2:42                                                   ` Steve French
2010-08-07  2:42                                                   ` Steve French
     [not found]                                                   ` <AANLkTinEFFAWMu62j2sCPy=ArExZNm2miJOGoXbG65jC-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-07  2:54                                                     ` Steve French
2010-08-07  2:54                                                       ` Steve French
2010-08-07  2:54                                                       ` Steve French
     [not found]                                                       ` <AANLkTik7KhgF=pkpdEcsYM75NVXNmU4ynzdh3KWknTEL-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-07  3:32                                                         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07  3:32                                                           ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07 10:34                                                           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-07 10:34                                                             ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                                                             ` <20100807063400.6bd1776f-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-07 11:04                                                               ` Neil Brown
2010-08-07 11:04                                                                 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-08 12:12                                     ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 12:12                                       ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 12:53                                       ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-08 12:53                                         ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                                         ` <20100808085301.24f53e5a-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-08 13:05                                           ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 13:05                                             ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 12:54                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-13 12:54                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                               ` <20100813125432.GB8945-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-13 17:54                                                 ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 17:54                                                   ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 18:09                                                   ` Steve French
2010-08-13 18:09                                                     ` Steve French
2010-08-13 19:06                                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-08-13 19:06                                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]                                                     ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1008132104290.12206-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-13 19:19                                                       ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-13 19:19                                                         ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-16 18:04                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-16 18:04                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-16 18:08                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-16 18:08                                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                                                     ` <20100816180828.GB7764-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-16 19:07                                                       ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-16 19:07                                                         ` Jeremy Allison
2010-08-08 23:07                                       ` Neil Brown
2010-08-08 23:07                                         ` Neil Brown
2010-07-23  1:03                       ` tridge
2010-07-23  1:03                         ` tridge
     [not found]                         ` <19528.60019.28495.655512-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23  1:21                           ` Ted Ts'o [this message]
2010-07-23  1:21                             ` Ted Ts'o
2010-07-23  9:14                             ` Björn Jacke
     [not found]                             ` <20100723012130.GD16373-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-23  2:12                               ` tridge-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg
2010-07-23  2:12                                 ` tridge
2010-07-23  9:14                               ` Björn Jacke
2010-07-23  9:14                                 ` Björn Jacke
2010-07-23  9:14                             ` Björn Jacke
2010-07-22 16:25                 ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]               ` <AANLkTimwIq0pBhCeOjOVjB0y  <1280603032.3125.24.camel@heimdal.trondhjem.org>
     [not found]                 ` <1280603032.3125.24.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-01 16:18                   ` utz lehmann
2010-08-01 16:18                     ` utz lehmann
2010-07-22 15:46           ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-07-22 15:46             ` Jan Engelhardt
     [not found]           ` <alpine.LSU.2.01.1007221740570.12308-SHaQjdQMGhDmsUXKMKRlFA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-22 16:06             ` David Howells
2010-07-22 16:06               ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 03/18] AFS: Use i_generation not i_version for the vnode uniquifier " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 04/18] xstat: AFS: Return extended attributes " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 05/18] xstat: eCryptFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 06/18] xstat: Ext4: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 07/18] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 08/18] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 09/18] xstat: Make special system filesystems return FS_SPECIAL_FL " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-18  8:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:09   ` David Howells
2010-07-19 14:09     ` David Howells
     [not found]   ` <8426.1279548573-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-27 13:41     ` David Howells
2010-07-27 13:41       ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 10/18] xstat: Make network filesystems return FS_REMOTE_FL " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 11/18] xstat: Make automounter filesystems return FS_AUTOMOUNT_FL " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 12/18] xstat: Add a dentry op to handle automounting rather than abusing follow_link() " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
     [not found]   ` <20100715021723.5544.85730.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-18  8:50     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-18  8:50       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <20100718085048.GC27794-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-19 14:10     ` David Howells
2010-07-19 14:10       ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 13/18] xstat: AFS: Use d_automount() " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 14/18] xstat: NFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17   ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 15/18] xstat: CIFS: " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 16/18] xstat: Remove the automount through follow_link() kludge code from pathwalk " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17 ` [PATCH 17/18] xstat: Add an AT_NO_AUTOMOUNT flag to suppress terminal automount " David Howells
     [not found] ` <20100715021709.5544.64506.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-15  2:17   ` [PATCH 18/18] xstat: Provide a mechanism to gather extra results for [f]xstat() " David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17     ` David Howells
2010-07-15  2:17     ` David Howells
     [not found]     ` <20100715021730.5544.68442.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-18  8:51       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-18  8:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-18  8:51         ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-07-17 14:03 [PATCH 02/18] xstat: Add a pair of system calls to make extended file stats available " Enda
     [not found] ` <CAH2r5mue79VBqr24ie59mr8mYZLDPmnB2FMG_BB1ZoEnh8uGeA@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAH2r5mue79VBqr24ie59mr8mYZLDPmnB2FMG_BB1ZoEnh8uGeA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-18 13:48     ` Steve French

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