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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>
Cc: "Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, "Nicolas Pitre" <nico@fluxnic.net>,
	"Arnd Bergmann" <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"Steven Rostedt" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"Måns Rullgård" <mans@mansr.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] scripts: Add a recorduidiv program
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:19:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151201161944.GX8644@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <565DC5A9.2010305@suse.cz>

On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 05:07:05PM +0100, Michal Marek wrote:
> On 2015-11-30 16:40, Michal Marek wrote:
> > On 2015-11-30 16:32, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 04:11:16PM +0100, Michal Marek wrote:
> >>> On 2015-11-26 00:47, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> >>>> Do we have any resolution on these programs which modify the object
> >>>> files in-place, rather than breaking any hard-links which may be
> >>>> present (eg, as a result of using ccache in hard-link mode) ?
> >>>
> >>> Good point, but I do not think anybody is using CCACHE_HARDLINK with the
> >>> kernel.
> >>
> >> That's wrong then, because I've been using it for a very long time with
> >> my nightly builds. :)  Therefore, there is somebody!
> > 
> > OK.
> 
> So, both recordmcount and the new recordudiv program are idempotent.
> They check if the to-be-added section is already present and do nothing.

They hardly "do nothing", as the (eg) recordmcount plasters the build
log with warnings.  A solution to that would be to make recordmcount
silent if the section is already present.

> So the result is correct even with CCACHE_HARDLINK, just the
> intermediate file might be incorrect. If this still is considered an
> issue, I suggest clearing CCACHE_HARDLINK when using any of these
> postprocessors, so as not to penalize other use cases.

Another solution would be to have the top level make file unset the
CCACHE_HARDLINK environment variable if any of the options which enable
in-place editing of object files is enabled.  Looking at the ccache
code, the environment variable has to be deleted from the environment
to turn off the option - and I'm not sure whether make can delete
environment variables.  It certainly can override them, but I see
nothing in the info pages which suggests that environment variables
can be deleted by a makefile.

However, doing it outside of the kernel build system is likely error
prone especially as the kernel configuration options change and/or
their effect changes.

-- 
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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 1/2] scripts: Add a recorduidiv program
Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2015 16:19:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151201161944.GX8644@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <565DC5A9.2010305@suse.cz>

On Tue, Dec 01, 2015 at 05:07:05PM +0100, Michal Marek wrote:
> On 2015-11-30 16:40, Michal Marek wrote:
> > On 2015-11-30 16:32, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> >> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 04:11:16PM +0100, Michal Marek wrote:
> >>> On 2015-11-26 00:47, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> >>>> Do we have any resolution on these programs which modify the object
> >>>> files in-place, rather than breaking any hard-links which may be
> >>>> present (eg, as a result of using ccache in hard-link mode) ?
> >>>
> >>> Good point, but I do not think anybody is using CCACHE_HARDLINK with the
> >>> kernel.
> >>
> >> That's wrong then, because I've been using it for a very long time with
> >> my nightly builds. :)  Therefore, there is somebody!
> > 
> > OK.
> 
> So, both recordmcount and the new recordudiv program are idempotent.
> They check if the to-be-added section is already present and do nothing.

They hardly "do nothing", as the (eg) recordmcount plasters the build
log with warnings.  A solution to that would be to make recordmcount
silent if the section is already present.

> So the result is correct even with CCACHE_HARDLINK, just the
> intermediate file might be incorrect. If this still is considered an
> issue, I suggest clearing CCACHE_HARDLINK when using any of these
> postprocessors, so as not to penalize other use cases.

Another solution would be to have the top level make file unset the
CCACHE_HARDLINK environment variable if any of the options which enable
in-place editing of object files is enabled.  Looking at the ccache
code, the environment variable has to be deleted from the environment
to turn off the option - and I'm not sure whether make can delete
environment variables.  It certainly can override them, but I see
nothing in the info pages which suggests that environment variables
can be deleted by a makefile.

However, doing it outside of the kernel build system is likely error
prone especially as the kernel configuration options change and/or
their effect changes.

-- 
FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: currently at 9.6Mbps down 400kbps up
according to speedtest.net.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-01 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-25 21:51 [PATCH v2 0/2] ARM: Use udiv/sdiv for __aeabi_{u}idiv library functions Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 21:51 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 21:51 ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 21:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] scripts: Add a recorduidiv program Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 21:51   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 23:47   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-25 23:47     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-30 15:11     ` Michal Marek
2015-11-30 15:11       ` Michal Marek
2015-11-30 15:32       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-30 15:32         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-30 15:32         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-30 15:40         ` Michal Marek
2015-11-30 15:40           ` Michal Marek
2015-12-01 16:07           ` Michal Marek
2015-12-01 16:07             ` Michal Marek
2015-12-01 16:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2015-12-01 16:19               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-01 16:43               ` Michal Marek
2015-12-01 16:43                 ` Michal Marek
2015-12-01 16:49               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-01 16:49                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-01 17:10                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-01 17:10                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-01 17:22                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-01 17:22                     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-01 18:16                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-01 18:16                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-01 21:39                       ` Michal Marek
2015-12-01 21:39                         ` Michal Marek
2015-12-02 10:23                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-02 10:23                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-02 14:05                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-02 14:05                           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 12:09                           ` [PATCH] scripts: recordmcount: break hardlinks Russell King
2015-12-11 12:09                             ` Russell King
2015-12-11 14:31                             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 14:31                               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 14:45                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-11 14:45                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-11 15:08                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 15:08                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 18:10                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 18:10                                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 18:33                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-11 18:33                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-11 18:51                                     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 18:51                                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 18:58                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-11 18:58                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-12-11 19:28                                         ` Steven Rostedt
2015-12-11 19:28                                           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-11-25 21:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] ARM: Replace calls to __aeabi_{u}idiv with udiv/sdiv instructions Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 21:51   ` Stephen Boyd
2015-11-25 23:09   ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-25 23:09     ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-26  0:05     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-26  0:05       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-26  0:07     ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  0:07       ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  0:44       ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-26  0:44         ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-26  0:50         ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  0:50           ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  0:50           ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  1:28           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-26  1:28             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-26  1:28             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-26  2:19             ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  2:19               ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  2:19               ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  5:32               ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-26  5:32                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2015-11-26 12:41                 ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26 12:41                   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26 12:41                   ` Måns Rullgård
2015-11-26  0:08   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-26  0:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-11-26  0:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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