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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
To: Kai Huang <kaih.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	simon.guinot@sequanux.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, rkrcmar@redhat.com,
	matt@codeblueprint.co.uk, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	sfr@canb.auug.org.au, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, bhe@redhat.com, xemul@parallels.com,
	joro@8bytes.org, x86@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	msalter@redhat.com, ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com,
	dyoung@redhat.com, jroedel@suse.de, keescook@chromium.org,
	toshi.kani@hpe.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	devel@linuxdriverproject.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mchehab@kernel.org, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com,
	labbott@fedoraproject.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
	alexandre.bounine@idt.com, ku
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 09/28] x86/efi: Access EFI data as encrypted when SEV is active
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:50:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160923095015.5nn52ekk2kkqixfi@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2f7bb1d-cf3c-2373-c563-a1e72ff7b83a@gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 09:33:00PM +1200, Kai Huang wrote:
> How is this even possible? The spec clearly says under SEV only in long mode
> or PAE mode guest can control whether memory is encrypted via c-bit, and in
> other modes guest will be always in encrypted mode.

I was suggesting the hypervisor supplies the EFI ranges unencrypted. But
that is not a good idea because firmware data is exposed then, see same
thread from yesterday.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
To: Kai Huang <kaih.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	simon.guinot@sequanux.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, rkrcmar@redhat.com,
	matt@codeblueprint.co.uk, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	sfr@canb.auug.org.au, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, bhe@redhat.com, xemul@parallels.com,
	joro@8bytes.org, x86@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	msalter@redhat.com, ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com,
	dyoung@redhat.com, jroedel@suse.de, keescook@chromium.org,
	toshi.kani@hpe.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	devel@linuxdriverproject.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mchehab@kernel.org, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com,
	labbott@fedoraproject.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
	alexandre.bounine@idt.com, kuleshovmail@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 09/28] x86/efi: Access EFI data as encrypted when SEV is active
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:50:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160923095015.5nn52ekk2kkqixfi@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2f7bb1d-cf3c-2373-c563-a1e72ff7b83a@gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 09:33:00PM +1200, Kai Huang wrote:
> How is this even possible? The spec clearly says under SEV only in long mode
> or PAE mode guest can control whether memory is encrypted via c-bit, and in
> other modes guest will be always in encrypted mode.

I was suggesting the hypervisor supplies the EFI ranges unencrypted. But
that is not a good idea because firmware data is exposed then, see same
thread from yesterday.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
-- 

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From: Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>
To: Kai Huang <kaih.linux@gmail.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
	Brijesh Singh <brijesh.singh@amd.com>,
	simon.guinot@sequanux.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, rkrcmar@redhat.com,
	matt@codeblueprint.co.uk, linus.walleij@linaro.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	dan.j.williams@intel.com, aarcange@redhat.com,
	sfr@canb.auug.org.au, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, bhe@redhat.com, xemul@parallels.com,
	joro@8bytes.org, x86@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	msalter@redhat.com, ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com,
	dyoung@redhat.com, jroedel@suse.de, keescook@chromium.org,
	toshi.kani@hpe.com, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	devel@linuxdriverproject.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mchehab@kernel.org, iamjoonsoo.kim@lge.com,
	labbott@fedoraproject.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
	alexandre.bounine@idt.com, kuleshovmail@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mcgrof@kernel.org,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	davem@davemloft.net
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 09/28] x86/efi: Access EFI data as encrypted when SEV is active
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:50:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160923095015.5nn52ekk2kkqixfi@pd.tnic> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c2f7bb1d-cf3c-2373-c563-a1e72ff7b83a@gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 09:33:00PM +1200, Kai Huang wrote:
> How is this even possible? The spec clearly says under SEV only in long mode
> or PAE mode guest can control whether memory is encrypted via c-bit, and in
> other modes guest will be always in encrypted mode.

I was suggesting the hypervisor supplies the EFI ranges unencrypted. But
that is not a good idea because firmware data is exposed then, see same
thread from yesterday.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix ImendA?rffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG NA 1/4 rnberg)
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-23  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 255+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-22 23:23 [RFC PATCH v1 00/28] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/28] kvm: svm: Add support for additional SVM NPF error codes Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-13  9:56   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-13  9:56     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-13  9:56     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-22 23:23 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/28] kvm: svm: Add kvm_fast_pio_in support Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:23   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 10:58   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-21 10:58     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-21 10:58     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-22 23:23 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/28] kvm: svm: Use the hardware provided GPA instead of page walk Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-21 17:16   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-21 17:16     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-21 17:16     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-22 23:24 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24 ` [RFC PATCH v1 04/28] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (SEV) support Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-22 15:00   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 15:00     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 15:00     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-22 23:24 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/28] KVM: SVM: prepare for new bit definition in nested_ctl Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-22 14:17   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:17     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:17     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-22 23:24 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/28] KVM: SVM: Add SEV feature definitions to KVM Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/28] x86: Do not encrypt memory areas if SEV is enabled Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:24 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25 ` [RFC PATCH v1 08/28] Access BOOT related data encrypted with SEV active Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/28] x86/efi: Access EFI data as encrypted when SEV is active Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-09-22 14:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:35     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:35     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:35     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:45     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 14:45       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 14:45       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 14:59       ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:59         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:59         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 14:59         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 15:05         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 15:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 15:05           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 17:07           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 17:07             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 17:07             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 17:07             ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 17:08             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 17:08               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 17:08               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 17:08               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 17:27               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 17:27                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 17:27                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 19:04             ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 19:04               ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 19:04               ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 19:04               ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 19:11               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 19:11                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 19:11                 ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 19:49                 ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 19:49                   ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 19:49                   ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 19:49                   ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 20:10                   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 20:10                     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 20:10                     ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 18:59         ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:59           ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:59           ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:59           ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:47       ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:47         ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:47         ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:47         ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:50         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 18:50           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 18:50           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 17:46     ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 17:46       ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 17:46       ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 17:46       ` Tom Lendacky
2016-09-22 18:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 18:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 18:23         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 18:37         ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 18:37           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-22 18:37           ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]           ` <20160922183759.7ahw2kbxit3epnzk-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-09-22 18:44             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-22 18:44               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-23  9:33           ` Kai Huang
2016-09-23  9:33             ` Kai Huang
2016-09-23  9:33             ` Kai Huang
2016-09-23  9:50             ` Borislav Petkov [this message]
2016-09-23  9:50               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-09-23  9:50               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-08-22 23:25 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25 ` [RFC PATCH v1 10/28] x86: Change early_ioremap to early_memremap for BOOT data Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25 ` [RFC PATCH v1 11/28] x86: Don't decrypt trampoline area if SEV is active Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:25   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 12/28] x86: DMA support for SEV memory encryption Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 13/28] iommu/amd: AMD IOMMU support for SEV Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 14/28] x86: Don't set the SME MSR bit when SEV is active Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 15/28] x86: Unroll string I/O " Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` [RFC PATCH v1 16/28] x86: Add support to determine if running with SEV enabled Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:26   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 17/28] KVM: SVM: Enable SEV by setting the SEV_ENABLE cpu feature Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 18/28] crypto: add AMD Platform Security Processor driver Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-23  7:14   ` Herbert Xu
2016-08-23  7:14     ` Herbert Xu
2016-08-23  7:14     ` Herbert Xu
2016-08-24 12:02     ` Tom Lendacky
2016-08-24 12:02       ` Tom Lendacky
2016-08-24 12:02       ` Tom Lendacky
2016-08-24 12:02       ` Tom Lendacky
2016-08-22 23:27 ` [RFC PATCH v1 19/28] KVM: SVM: prepare to reserve asid for SEV guest Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:27   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-13 10:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-13 10:17     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-22 23:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 20/28] KVM: SVM: prepare for SEV guest management API support Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-13 10:41   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-22 23:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 21/28] KVM: introduce KVM_SEV_ISSUE_CMD ioctl Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-13 10:45   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-13 10:45     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-17 17:57     ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-17 17:57       ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-17 17:57       ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-17 20:14       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-17 20:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-17 20:14         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-18 19:32         ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-18 19:32           ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-18 19:32           ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-18 21:44           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-18 21:44             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-18 21:44             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-22 23:28 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 22/28] KVM: SVM: add SEV launch start command Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-13 11:12   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-22 23:28 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 23/28] KVM: SVM: add SEV launch update command Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28 ` [RFC PATCH v1 24/28] KVM: SVM: add SEV_LAUNCH_FINISH command Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:28   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-13 11:16   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-08-22 23:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 25/28] KVM: SVM: add KVM_SEV_GUEST_STATUS command Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 26/28] KVM: SVM: add KVM_SEV_DEBUG_DECRYPT command Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 27/28] KVM: SVM: add KVM_SEV_DEBUG_ENCRYPT command Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29 ` [RFC PATCH v1 28/28] KVM: SVM: add command to query SEV API version Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-08-22 23:29 ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-13 11:19 ` [RFC PATCH v1 00/28] x86: Secure Encrypted Virtualization (AMD) Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-17 13:51   ` Brijesh Singh
2016-10-17 13:51     ` Brijesh Singh

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