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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: remove unnecessary __get_user_pages_unlocked() calls
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:39:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161026093913.GA12814@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161026091542.GD18382@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:15:43AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 26-10-16 00:46:31, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > The holdout for unexporting __get_user_pages_unlocked() is its invocation in
> > mm/process_vm_access.c: process_vm_rw_single_vec(), as this definitely _does_
> > seem to invoke VM_FAULT_RETRY behaviour which get_user_pages_remote() will not
> > trigger if we were to replace it with the latter.
>
> I am not sure I understand. Prior to 1e9877902dc7e this used
> get_user_pages_unlocked. What prevents us from reintroducing it with
> FOLL_REMOVE which was meant to be added by the above commit?
>
> Or am I missing your point?

The issue isn't the flags being passed, rather that in this case:

a. Replacing __get_user_pages_unlocked() with get_user_pages_unlocked() won't
   work as the latter assumes task = current and mm = current->mm but
   process_vm_rw_single_vec() needs to pass different task, mm.

b. Moving to get_user_pages_remote() _will_ allow us to pass different task, mm
   but won't however match existing behaviour precisely, since
   __get_user_pages_unlocked() acquires mmap_sem then passes a pointer to a
   local 'locked' variable to __get_user_pages_locked() which allows
   VM_FAULT_RETRY to trigger.

The main issue I had here was not being sure whether we care about the
VM_FAULT_RETRY functionality being used here or not, if we don't care then we
can just move to get_user_pages_remote(), otherwise perhaps this should be left
alone or maybe we need to consider adjusting the API to allow for remote access
with VM_FAULT_RETRY functionality.

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From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Jan Kara" <jack@suse.cz>, "Hugh Dickins" <hughd@google.com>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rik van Riel" <riel@redhat.com>,
	"Mel Gorman" <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: remove unnecessary __get_user_pages_unlocked() calls
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:39:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161026093913.GA12814@lucifer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161026091542.GD18382@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 11:15:43AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Wed 26-10-16 00:46:31, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > The holdout for unexporting __get_user_pages_unlocked() is its invocation in
> > mm/process_vm_access.c: process_vm_rw_single_vec(), as this definitely _does_
> > seem to invoke VM_FAULT_RETRY behaviour which get_user_pages_remote() will not
> > trigger if we were to replace it with the latter.
>
> I am not sure I understand. Prior to 1e9877902dc7e this used
> get_user_pages_unlocked. What prevents us from reintroducing it with
> FOLL_REMOVE which was meant to be added by the above commit?
>
> Or am I missing your point?

The issue isn't the flags being passed, rather that in this case:

a. Replacing __get_user_pages_unlocked() with get_user_pages_unlocked() won't
   work as the latter assumes task = current and mm = current->mm but
   process_vm_rw_single_vec() needs to pass different task, mm.

b. Moving to get_user_pages_remote() _will_ allow us to pass different task, mm
   but won't however match existing behaviour precisely, since
   __get_user_pages_unlocked() acquires mmap_sem then passes a pointer to a
   local 'locked' variable to __get_user_pages_locked() which allows
   VM_FAULT_RETRY to trigger.

The main issue I had here was not being sure whether we care about the
VM_FAULT_RETRY functionality being used here or not, if we don't care then we
can just move to get_user_pages_remote(), otherwise perhaps this should be left
alone or maybe we need to consider adjusting the API to allow for remote access
with VM_FAULT_RETRY functionality.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-26  9:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-25 23:36 [PATCH] mm: remove unnecessary __get_user_pages_unlocked() calls Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-25 23:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-25 23:46 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-25 23:46   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-26  9:15   ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  9:15     ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  9:39     ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2016-10-26  9:39       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-26  9:54       ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  9:54         ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  7:59 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-26  7:59   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-26  9:07   ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  9:07     ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  9:12 ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  9:12   ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-26  9:25 ` [PATCH v2] " Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-26  9:25   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-27  0:12   ` Andrew Morton
2016-10-27  0:12     ` Andrew Morton
2016-10-27  7:06     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-27  7:06       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-27  9:27     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-27  9:27       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-27  9:32       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-27  9:32         ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2016-10-27  9:35         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-27  9:35           ` Paolo Bonzini

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