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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Debian kernel maintainers <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:29:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161129132953.GB24321@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161129131922.GA31466@angband.pl>


* Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> wrote:

> Here's some history:
> The day of -rc1, multiple people immediately reported the breakage; it was
> quickly found out that reverting 784d5699eddc fixes it.  A "going forward"
> patch has been posted but was insufficient; when the real devs went to bed
> the last message was
> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org/msg1250370.html
> which ends with instructions and "Care to do a patch for x86?".
> 
> Then a random person (me) did the legwork, gathered affected symbols, wrote
> and tested the x86 patch.  It was then tested by multiple people; Arnd
> Bergmann wrote the ARM equivalent.  Whenever a new lkml thread reporting the
> breakage popped up, we pointed people to the patches and everyone was happy.
> As for upstreaming, there was a delay because Michal Marek was on vacation.
> 
> Michal returned and sent you the pull request, you merged it as 04e36857 on
> Nov 18.  For some reason the per-arch pieces were excluded; I was instructed
> to send my part to x86 maintainers.
> 
> I did so; the patch later got a better description by Nick and a bunch of
> Tested-by -- but alas, nary a comment or action from x86 guys, despite
> pings/resends (last one: https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/11/23/706).  I guess I'm
> lacking the secret handshake or something -- thus, it looks like it's my
> fault, the rest of you can be blamed mostly for letting a
> not-a-real-kernel-dev unsupervised.

My part of the story is easy to explain: the reason I skipped the 11/23 patch was 
because it was tagged 'kbuild' and because the commit that broke it was never 
acked by (or was upstreamed via) the x86 maintainers - we never upstreamed any 
modversions changes in the past AFAIR - so I assumed it would be handled via 
whatever path got the breakage upstream (turns out it was via the VFS tree?),
or via the kbuild tree.

> On Nov 24 finally Ingo responded, the discussion ended with you marking 
> modversions as BROKEN.

Yeah, that was when my internal timer ran out: modversions breakage was reported 
against -rc1 already and it still wasn't working (a seemingly working kernel build 
resulted in an unbootable system) - due to the timeline and confusion you 
explained.

I totally agree with marking it BROKEN: it was the simplest, most robust way to 
fix it and nobody seemed to be owning the modversions feature.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-29 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <a73aec83-ddad-2bdf-e612-178c9936a16f@manjaro.org>
     [not found] ` <20161102004639.6870806d@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2016-11-23 20:08   ` BUG: 4.9-rc6 Still "no symbol version" on boot Philip Müller
2016-11-23 20:14     ` Robert LeBlanc
2016-11-23 20:27       ` Philip Müller
2016-11-23 20:53     ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-23 21:01       ` Robert LeBlanc
2016-11-23 21:02       ` [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm Adam Borowski
2016-11-23 23:10         ` Philip Müller
2016-11-24  4:40         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-24  5:20           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  6:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-24  7:20               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  7:36                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-24  7:53                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  9:32                     ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24 10:03                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24 10:51                         ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24  9:38                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-24 10:01                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  9:56                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-24 10:31                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24 15:24                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-25  0:40                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-25 18:00                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-26  0:37                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-29  1:15                               ` Ben Hutchings
2016-11-29  2:31                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-29  9:14                                   ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29  4:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 13:19                                   ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 13:29                                     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-11-29 14:24                                       ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 13:51                                     ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 15:27                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 16:03                                         ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29 16:17                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 19:57                                             ` Ben Hutchings
2016-11-29 20:35                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-30 18:18                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-30 18:40                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-30 21:33                                                     ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-01  1:55                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01  2:35                                                         ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-01  3:39                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 16:12                                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-12-02 14:36                                                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-09  3:33                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 15:21                                                                 ` Ian Campbell
2016-12-09 16:15                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 22:46                                                                     ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-09 22:46                                                                       ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-10 12:41                                                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-12  3:50                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-12  9:08                                                                         ` Ian Campbell
2016-12-14 17:59                                                                         ` Don Zickus
2016-12-13  1:07                                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-13 22:51                                                                       ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  8:58                                                                         ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  8:58                                                                           ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:15                                                                           ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  9:36                                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:36                                                                               ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:44                                                                               ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14 10:02                                                                                 ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14 10:02                                                                                   ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14 10:15                                                                                   ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  9:56                                                                               ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:56                                                                                 ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:37                                                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-12-01  4:13                                                     ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01  4:32                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 15:20                                                         ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 15:26                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-01 15:40                                                             ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 16:06                                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-01 18:42                                                                 ` Don Zickus
2016-12-09  3:50                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09  7:55                                                             ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09  8:14                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 14:36                                                                 ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09 15:56                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 16:03                                                                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-12  9:48                                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-13  7:25                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-14 14:04                                                                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15  2:06                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 11:19                                                                           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 12:03                                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 13:15                                                                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 14:15                                                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 15:17                                                                                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 13:35                                                                               ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09 16:16                                                             ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 10:48                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-01 11:09                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 11:33                                                           ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-01 12:39                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 15:19                                                           ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 15:19                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 15:19                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 15:19                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 16:14                                                       ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29 17:05                                         ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 17:05                                           ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 17:10                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 17:14                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-01 13:58                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-01 16:21                                                 ` Michal Marek
2016-12-01 18:26                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-02 10:55                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 12:40                                                     ` [RFC, PATCH, v3.9] default exported asm symbols to zero Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 12:59                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-02 14:51                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 15:35                                                       ` Adam Borowski
2016-12-02 15:35                                                         ` Adam Borowski
2016-12-03  4:36                                                       ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-03 10:43                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 17:04                                                     ` [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm Linus Torvalds
2016-12-04  7:44                                                     ` Alan Modra
2016-12-04 20:44                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 21:23                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24  9:25           ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24 11:42         ` Regression: " Kalle Valo
2016-11-23 23:07       ` BUG: 4.9-rc6 Still "no symbol version" on boot Philip Müller
2016-11-28 17:10         ` Robert LeBlanc

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