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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Debian kernel maintainers <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2016 15:24:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161129142408.GA8105@angband.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161129132953.GB24321@gmail.com>

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 02:29:54PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl> wrote:
> 
> > Here's some history:
> > The day of -rc1, multiple people immediately reported the breakage; it was
> > quickly found out that reverting 784d5699eddc fixes it.  A "going forward"
> > patch has been posted but was insufficient; when the real devs went to bed
[...]
> > For some reason the per-arch pieces were excluded; I was instructed
> > to send my part to x86 maintainers.
> > 
> > I did so; the patch later got a better description by Nick and a bunch of
> > Tested-by -- but alas, nary a comment or action from x86 guys, despite
> > pings/resends (last one: https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/11/23/706).  I guess I'm
> > lacking the secret handshake or something -- thus, it looks like it's my
> > fault, the rest of you can be blamed mostly for letting a
> > not-a-real-kernel-dev unsupervised.
> 
> My part of the story is easy to explain: the reason I skipped the 11/23 patch was 
> because it was tagged 'kbuild' and because the commit that broke it was never 
> acked by (or was upstreamed via) the x86 maintainers - we never upstreamed any 
> modversions changes in the past AFAIR - so I assumed it would be handled via 
> whatever path got the breakage upstream (turns out it was via the VFS tree?),
> or via the kbuild tree.

The problematic merge was 84d6984 (it brought in 22823ab4^..590abbdd).
Interesting commits have "$ARCH: move exports to definitions" in their
subjects, they indeed did not go through arch trees.

> > On Nov 24 finally Ingo responded, the discussion ended with you marking 
> > modversions as BROKEN.
> 
> Yeah, that was when my internal timer ran out: modversions breakage was reported 
> against -rc1 already and it still wasn't working (a seemingly working kernel build 
> resulted in an unbootable system) - due to the timeline and confusion you 
> explained.
> 
> I totally agree with marking it BROKEN: it was the simplest, most robust way to 
> fix it and nobody seemed to be owning the modversions feature.

Per Ben Hutchings' objection, it doesn't look like BROKEN is an option at
least for 4.9 -- even if mainline leaves it as is, distro maintainers would
need to do the work themselves.

Architectures that look like they could be affected:
    x86 alpha m68k s390 arm ppc sparc ia64
(this list might be incomplete!).

Of these, ppc and arm are already fixed, x86 is in this thread,
arm64 is not on the list which explains why it works for me.  No idea about
the rest.


Meow!
-- 
The bill declaring Jesus as the King of Poland fails to specify whether
the addition is at the top or end of the list of kings.  What should the
historians do?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-29 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <a73aec83-ddad-2bdf-e612-178c9936a16f@manjaro.org>
     [not found] ` <20161102004639.6870806d@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com>
2016-11-23 20:08   ` BUG: 4.9-rc6 Still "no symbol version" on boot Philip Müller
2016-11-23 20:14     ` Robert LeBlanc
2016-11-23 20:27       ` Philip Müller
2016-11-23 20:53     ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-23 21:01       ` Robert LeBlanc
2016-11-23 21:02       ` [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm Adam Borowski
2016-11-23 23:10         ` Philip Müller
2016-11-24  4:40         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-24  5:20           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  6:00             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-24  7:20               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  7:36                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-24  7:53                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  9:32                     ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24 10:03                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24 10:51                         ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24  9:38                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-11-24 10:01                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24  9:56                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-24 10:31                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-24 15:24                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-11-25  0:40                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-25 18:00                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-26  0:37                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-29  1:15                               ` Ben Hutchings
2016-11-29  2:31                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-29  9:14                                   ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29  4:08                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 13:19                                   ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 13:29                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-11-29 14:24                                       ` Adam Borowski [this message]
2016-11-29 13:51                                     ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 15:27                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 16:03                                         ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29 16:17                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 19:57                                             ` Ben Hutchings
2016-11-29 20:35                                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-30 18:18                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-11-30 18:40                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-30 21:33                                                     ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-01  1:55                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01  2:35                                                         ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-01  3:39                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 16:12                                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-12-02 14:36                                                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-09  3:33                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 15:21                                                                 ` Ian Campbell
2016-12-09 16:15                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 22:46                                                                     ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-09 22:46                                                                       ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-10 12:41                                                                       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-12  3:50                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-12  9:08                                                                         ` Ian Campbell
2016-12-14 17:59                                                                         ` Don Zickus
2016-12-13  1:07                                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-13 22:51                                                                       ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  8:58                                                                         ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  8:58                                                                           ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:15                                                                           ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  9:36                                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:36                                                                               ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:44                                                                               ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14 10:02                                                                                 ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14 10:02                                                                                   ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14 10:15                                                                                   ` Michal Marek
2016-12-14  9:56                                                                               ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:56                                                                                 ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-14  9:37                                                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-12-01  4:13                                                     ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01  4:32                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 15:20                                                         ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 15:26                                                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-12-01 15:40                                                             ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 16:06                                                               ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-01 18:42                                                                 ` Don Zickus
2016-12-09  3:50                                                           ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09  7:55                                                             ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09  8:14                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 14:36                                                                 ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09 15:56                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-09 16:03                                                                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2016-12-12  9:48                                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-13  7:25                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-14 14:04                                                                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15  2:06                                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 11:19                                                                           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 12:03                                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 13:15                                                                               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 14:15                                                                                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-15 15:17                                                                                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-12-15 13:35                                                                               ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-09 16:16                                                             ` Don Zickus
2016-12-01 10:48                                                       ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-01 11:09                                                         ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 11:33                                                           ` Stanislav Kozina
2016-12-01 12:39                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2016-12-01 15:19                                                           ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 15:19                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 15:19                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 15:19                                                             ` Dodji Seketeli
2016-12-01 16:14                                                       ` Michal Marek
2016-11-29 17:05                                         ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 17:05                                           ` Adam Borowski
2016-11-29 17:10                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 17:14                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-01 13:58                                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-01 16:21                                                 ` Michal Marek
2016-12-01 18:26                                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-12-02 10:55                                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 12:40                                                     ` [RFC, PATCH, v3.9] default exported asm symbols to zero Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 12:59                                                       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2016-12-02 14:51                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 15:35                                                       ` Adam Borowski
2016-12-02 15:35                                                         ` Adam Borowski
2016-12-03  4:36                                                       ` Ben Hutchings
2016-12-03 10:43                                                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-12-02 17:04                                                     ` [PATCH] x86/kbuild: enable modversions for symbols exported from asm Linus Torvalds
2016-12-04  7:44                                                     ` Alan Modra
2016-12-04 20:44                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-11-29 21:23                                             ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24  9:25           ` Michal Marek
2016-11-24 11:42         ` Regression: " Kalle Valo
2016-11-23 23:07       ` BUG: 4.9-rc6 Still "no symbol version" on boot Philip Müller
2016-11-28 17:10         ` Robert LeBlanc

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